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re: Star Wars - A New Hope: How Flawed is it?
Posted on 4/28/14 at 6:54 pm to Freauxzen
Posted on 4/28/14 at 6:54 pm to Freauxzen
First, it's just Star Wars.
Second, Luke was a whiny bitch.
Third, Greedo didn't shoot at all. He was shot.
Fourth, Darth Vader killed Anakin Skywalker. Darth was his name, not his title.
George Lucas should never make another movie. Ever.
Second, Luke was a whiny bitch.
Third, Greedo didn't shoot at all. He was shot.
Fourth, Darth Vader killed Anakin Skywalker. Darth was his name, not his title.
George Lucas should never make another movie. Ever.
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:34 pm to DanTiger
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Which one is A New Hope?
quote:Suspect.
Lucas cannot just jump in and change sequences on me when I have been watching those movies since the late 70s.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 9:29 pm to Freauxzen
I'm sure it has its flaws but they never really bothered me.
I think it comes down to it is a pretty classic, simple but enjoyable plot (I mean we literally have the farm boy, the princess and the good hearted rogue) welded to a new generation of special effects.
Compared to other movies with classic plots and innovative special effects/"style", I'd put it ahead of something like 300 and on a level with or a little behind something like the original Matrix.
I think it comes down to it is a pretty classic, simple but enjoyable plot (I mean we literally have the farm boy, the princess and the good hearted rogue) welded to a new generation of special effects.
Compared to other movies with classic plots and innovative special effects/"style", I'd put it ahead of something like 300 and on a level with or a little behind something like the original Matrix.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 9:50 pm to Freauxzen
The only flaw is anyone referring to the original as anything other than STAR WARS.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 9:54 pm to BlacknGold
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i dont think it deadens ALL impact, but i think it does have a significant impact. New Hope is my least favorite out of the trilogy. It's boring and a bit "wtf" thrown around. Obi Wan's demise always felt like a very anti-climatic moment. HUGE tension and build up to a 5 second fight.
Where's Randall when you need him?
Randall!
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then theres the famous "hidden self destruct" button for the death star. huge cop out to let the hero instantly win without really working for it.
luke's aunt and uncle are murdered and he basically never deals with it or cares after that initial shock. more of an "aw shucks" reaction.
those are the biggest flaws in my eyes.
These are flaws? This is minor minor stuff.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 9:55 pm to Freauxzen
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Good assessment.
The movie's answer is two fold:
1) The Force
2) The Lineage
Luke was just better because it was in his blood to pilot a ship. Pure talent only gets you so far, but the Force then can help.
The Force is a little contrived for the purpose, it works, maybe not well enough. And it's surely convenient.
Doesn't his buddy also say something along the lines of "he's the best pilot back home". He might not have flown that model, but they definitely insinuated if not flatout said that he was a pilot.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 10:01 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Doesn't his buddy also say something along the lines of "he's the best pilot back home". He might not have flown that model, but they definitely insinuated if not flatout said that he was a pilot.
Yeah I kind of wrapped that into Lineage/Talent. He's just naturally good. That's all I meant. (I mean the assumption is he's a good pilot with no formal training.)
Posted on 4/28/14 at 10:08 pm to Itismemc
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biggest flaw was that in a society that has mastered galactic travel, was the they could not E-Mail plans for a battle station to each other.
biggest flaw- the technological inconstancies . no ipads, email, internet but hyperspeed travel ?
Posted on 4/28/14 at 10:13 pm to Freauxzen
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Yeah I kind of wrapped that into Lineage/Talent. He's just naturally good. That's all I meant. (I mean the assumption is he's a good pilot with no formal training.)
Well, sure, he probably could have benefitted from some training with Lou Gossett, Jr. trying to get him to DOR - "only two things on Tatooine boy, which are you?"
Posted on 4/28/14 at 10:17 pm to Itismemc
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The biggest flaw was that in a society that has mastered galactic travel, was the they could not E-Mail plans for a battle station to each other.
That's basically how they got caught. "Several transmissions were beamed to this ship by Rebel spies."
Posted on 4/28/14 at 10:21 pm to CC
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Third, Greedo didn't shoot at all. He was shot.
This.
HAN SHOT GREEDO, FIRST. Greedo never shot at shite. GOD frickING DAMNIT
Posted on 4/29/14 at 7:18 am to Akit1
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How about that fatty flying next to Luke? No way a big guy like that would be qualified or allowed to fly an x-wing.
Red 6 Standing By...
Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:14 am to Bmath
Such a great thread.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:16 am to Freauxzen
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Star Wars - A New Hope: How Flawed is it?
It was and still is a great film. I don't look for flaws; I just try to immerse myself in the context of the story and enjoy it. Star Wars is and will always be a groundbreaking classic.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:23 am to Akit1
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How about that fatty flying next to Luke? No way a big guy like that would be qualified or allowed to fly an x-wing.
I get the feeling that the rebels really didn't have the room to be picky, they probably had to take whoever was willing.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:33 am to cjared036
quote:Did Luke "dominate" or just hang back for a while, get into a trench, haul arse and hit a great shot? And obviously even Vader recognized the Force emanating from him so that helped a bit I'm sure.
I thought it was a bit of a stretch that luke, a farm boy with very little experience, was able to get into an x-wing and dominate over other experienced fighters .
Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:34 am to Itismemc
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The biggest flaw was that in a society that has mastered galactic travel, was the they could not E-Mail plans for a battle station to each other.
Who do you think owned all galactic communication?
And you think the NSA is bad. Imagine a government of unlimited resources without any moral compass...
Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:38 am to NOSTRODAMUS
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The only flaw is anyone referring to the original as anything other than STAR WARS.
This.
New hope bullshite, GTFO!!!
Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:40 am to Bmath
Porkins!!!
Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:40 am to Freauxzen
Star Wars is such a great film not only because of the fantasy, Greek hero's journey, western, samurai (but I guess that's really western too) and religious film motifs all mixed into one, but 37 years later the only dated parts are the haircuts, and some of the computer images. Lucas did a very good job of giving all of the sets very timeless qualities.
Plus Lucas changed movies forever with such a dynamic introduction as opposed to the five minutes of credits and music playing that all previous movies had done.
Plus Lucas changed movies forever with such a dynamic introduction as opposed to the five minutes of credits and music playing that all previous movies had done.
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