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re: Interstellar - things you LOVED and HATED about this movie
Posted on 4/2/15 at 2:58 pm to BiggerBear
Posted on 4/2/15 at 2:58 pm to BiggerBear
One thing I didn't like at all was casting Matt Damon as Dr. Mann. He just didn't fit the part of "revered scientist" very well. I feel like that really should have been someone older.
I also didn't like that Hathaway just had to go after the dead astronaut's data on the water planet. They landed, knew that time was their most precious resource in that scenario, and she still just had to try to retrieve the body and the data. If anything, send TARS after it and prepare to GTFO ASAP. That's not a mistake they should make... but I realize that it was also a plot device.
I also didn't like that Hathaway just had to go after the dead astronaut's data on the water planet. They landed, knew that time was their most precious resource in that scenario, and she still just had to try to retrieve the body and the data. If anything, send TARS after it and prepare to GTFO ASAP. That's not a mistake they should make... but I realize that it was also a plot device.
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Posted on 4/2/15 at 3:03 pm to BiggerBear
SPOILER (from what I've read)
He doesn't quite go completely into the black hole. Once he gets the gravity data that Earth needed, the 5th dimensional beings pulled him out from certain death in the blackhole into a tesseract. This space is where they let him see the infinite points in time and communicate with Murph through the bookshelf.
What's laughable to me though is that even though he can manipulate gravity through space and time, hey hey hey must've been there a long time tapping away in morse code the gravity equation data to the watch dial.
He doesn't quite go completely into the black hole. Once he gets the gravity data that Earth needed, the 5th dimensional beings pulled him out from certain death in the blackhole into a tesseract. This space is where they let him see the infinite points in time and communicate with Murph through the bookshelf.
What's laughable to me though is that even though he can manipulate gravity through space and time, hey hey hey must've been there a long time tapping away in morse code the gravity equation data to the watch dial.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 3:06 pm to BiggerBear
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I can't fault the 5th dimensional being nonsense too much but it's pretty much an Aladdin's lamp ending. The "evolution" of 5th dimensional beings (whatever that means) is dependent upon them traveling back from the future, after they have "evolved" into being and then causing the event that allows their evolution? Right. Why not just go a little further back and kill the "blight" when it first appears?
that would make for a paradox since they evolved from that reality
Your unhappiness about a deus ex machina ending is kinda fair but the difficulty with forward looking science fiction is being able to predict what beings that far beyond our understanding would be like or capable of doing. Nolan could have written a bad ending but then the 5th dimensional human descendants would have had to be either not human descendants or somehow able to reach across alternative universes
Posted on 4/2/15 at 3:08 pm to BiggerBear
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I can't fault the 5th dimensional being nonsense too much but it's pretty much an Aladdin's lamp ending. The "evolution" of 5th dimensional beings (whatever that means) is dependent upon them traveling back from the future, after they have "evolved" into being and then causing the event that allows their evolution? Right. Why not just go a little further back and kill the "blight" when it first appears?
Actually, if they're 5th dimensional beings, that makes this entirely possible. The 5th dimension is a plain of reality where all possibilities within a given universe have likely happened. It's basically Murphy's Law as a dimension.
Yes, these 5th dimensional beings started from a single plain of existence as we perceive it, but who knows what happened in that plain? They could be from a plane of existence that didn't suffer from the Blight. Or maybe they were from this plane of reality where 99.99% of humanity died off and they managed to survive narrowly, and wishing for a better future for humanity than they received, they opened up the wormhole and thus formed another plain of reality where a large portion of humanity survives. They're 5th dimensional beings, to where this is actually not a paradox.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 3:16 pm to CocomoLSU
it insisted upon itself way too much
Posted on 4/2/15 at 3:16 pm to LSUBoo
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One thing I didn't like at all was casting Matt Damon as Dr. Mann. He just didn't fit the part of "revered scientist" very well. I feel like that really should have been someone older.
Hence why they should have cast Bryan Cranston instead. I could fully buy that Walter White who is instead now interested in astrophysics instead of chemistry is able to convince 11 men to go on a suicide mission with him, and then when things go to hell, he does what he thinks is necessary to survive and becomes a ruthless psychopath.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 3:24 pm to OMLandshark
When Cooper got out of the tesseract, it showed him as one of those beings touching hattaways hand when they were in the wormhole. Howd that happen?
Posted on 4/2/15 at 3:27 pm to Tommy Wayne
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When Cooper got out of the tesseract, it showed him as one of those beings touching hattaways hand when they were in the wormhole. Howd that happen?
Not exactly sure to be honest, but Cooper is not a Fifth Dimensional Being. He was just put into a portion of it briefly from a parameter that his mind would be able to comprehend, but he didn't transcend into basically infinite as he would have he had truly become one.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 3:36 pm to OMLandshark
Even if space and time was on a continuum, he still wouldnt be able to touch her hand. So I thought...maybe he did go back in "time".
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Space-time does not evolve, it simply exists. When we examine a particular object from the stand point of its space-time representation, every particle is located along its world-line. This is a spaghetti-like line that stretches from the past to the future showing the spatial location of the particle at every instant in time. This world-line exists as a complete object which may be sliced here and there so that you can see where the particle is located in space at a particular instant. Once you determine the complete world line of a particle from the forces acting upon it, you have 'solved' for its complete history. This world-line does not change with time, but simply exists as a timeless object.
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Posted on 4/2/15 at 3:42 pm to BiggerBear
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Why not just go a little further back and kill the "blight" when it first appears?
You didn't get the point
It was them who evolved into another type of civilization. Perhaps type 1 or 2. So the blight was a necessary step to push the technological boundaries, which it did.
I firmly believe a part 2 is coming
Posted on 4/2/15 at 3:51 pm to Tommy Wayne
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Even if space and time was on a continuum, he still wouldnt be able to touch her hand.
I'll admit this was questionable, since I think he would have been literally ripping through the spacecraft if he was doing it. But it doesn't really matter and just there for symbolism. If wondering about time, time doesn't matter in the 5th Dimension. He's experiencing all time simultaneously, so he's seeing when he and Brand went through the wormhole.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 3:58 pm to OMLandshark
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Cooper is not a Fifth Dimensional Being. He was just put into a portion of it briefly from a parameter that his mind would be able to comprehend, but he didn't transcend into basically infinite as he would have he had truly become one.
I know this is subject to individual interpretation, but I view the tesseract as a sort of "suit" by which he was placed, artificially, into the 5th dimension - an artificial interface, akin to an adapter connecting RCA jacks to HDMI (if that doesn't slip too far into nerd speak).
Posted on 4/2/15 at 3:59 pm to Ace Midnight
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I know this is subject to individual interpretation, but I view the tesseract as a sort of "suit" by which he was placed, artificially, into the 5th dimension - an artificial interface, akin to an adapter connecting RCA jacks to HDMI (if that doesn't slip too far into nerd speak).
Makes sense to me.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 4:30 pm to mizzoukills
Some of the dialogue was bad, but very few movies have perfect dialogue. I also didn't care for some of the characters. Didn't like Matt Damon or Casey Affleck.
That being said, I LOVED this movie. It's probably my second favorite Nolan film behind Memento. It's a visual masterpiece. It was an experience seeing it in IMAX. It hit on a lot of different emotions. It was very imaginative and left you thinking long after you leave the theater. I loved the score.
I bought the SteelBook from Target.
That being said, I LOVED this movie. It's probably my second favorite Nolan film behind Memento. It's a visual masterpiece. It was an experience seeing it in IMAX. It hit on a lot of different emotions. It was very imaginative and left you thinking long after you leave the theater. I loved the score.
I bought the SteelBook from Target.
This post was edited on 4/2/15 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 4/2/15 at 4:35 pm to jackwoods4
Watching it twice in 2 weeks made me really appreciate the movie more when it came out. I was dreading sitting through it again for 3 hours, but it went by quicker than the first viewing. The first viewing spends a ton of time wrapping your head around the plot. The second viewing allows you to immerse yourself in the emotion of the movie. I enjoyed it even more the second time by a good margin.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 4:45 pm to jackwoods4
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I loved the score.
Agreed. It set the tone of different scenes beautifully. If you ever get a chance, go to youtube to watch how Zimmer composed it. Long story short, Nolan told him a very basic premise of the movie to make the main soundtrack. Of course, he nailed it. Its also pretty awesome how he sampled/used the massive organ in it as well.
This post was edited on 4/2/15 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 4/2/15 at 4:48 pm to DelU249
Here is what I hated about the story:
1) His goal the entire movie is to make it back to Earth to see his children, but primarily his daughter because he left on bad terms. When he finally reunites with his daughter at the end, he shares a wonderful but brief moment with her. Then she says something like, "A parent shouldn't watch their child die. My family is here with me. I'm in peace. Go find Brand. She needs you."
And without so much as shedding a tear, Matthew leaves her to go find Brand.
I find that completely incomprehensible. If I was Matthew and I actually made it back to civilization in time to reunite with my daughter, I would stay by her side until she died.
There's no way I'm going to leave her again.
1) His goal the entire movie is to make it back to Earth to see his children, but primarily his daughter because he left on bad terms. When he finally reunites with his daughter at the end, he shares a wonderful but brief moment with her. Then she says something like, "A parent shouldn't watch their child die. My family is here with me. I'm in peace. Go find Brand. She needs you."
And without so much as shedding a tear, Matthew leaves her to go find Brand.
I find that completely incomprehensible. If I was Matthew and I actually made it back to civilization in time to reunite with my daughter, I would stay by her side until she died.
There's no way I'm going to leave her again.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 4:51 pm to mizzoukills
I saw it last night and loved it.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 4:52 pm to Tommy Wayne
Yup. Loved the score particularly on the ocean planet
Posted on 4/2/15 at 4:57 pm to mizzoukills
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Here is what I hated about the story:
1) His goal the entire movie is to make it back to Earth to see his children, but primarily his daughter because he left on bad terms. When he finally reunites with his daughter at the end, he shares a wonderful but brief moment with her. Then she says something like, "A parent shouldn't watch their child die. My family is here with me. I'm in peace. Go find Brand. She needs you."
And without so much as shedding a tear, Matthew leaves her to go find Brand.
I find that completely incomprehensible. If I was Matthew and I actually made it back to civilization in time to reunite with my daughter, I would stay by her side until she died.
There's no way I'm going to leave her again.
Hypothetically, you haven't been part of your 130 year old daughter's life for the last 120 years. What makes you think you are all-so-important to her that she wants you there instead of her kids and grandkids etc. We have no idea how much time elapses in that room by the way.
It would be downright selfish of MM to soak up the last of her time after deciding to abandon her in the first place, no matter how altruistic the intentions.
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