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re: Interstellar - things you LOVED and HATED about this movie
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:04 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:04 pm to OMLandshark
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Because they didn't want to waste that spacecraft's very limited fuel, so they a complete launch so that vehicle could get out into space on a full tank.
Geez...Yall are missing the point. I'm not saying use the ranger used on the missions. They obviously had the technology the didn't require multistage rockets. Just be consistent. FFS... read the article I linked. An excerpt...
"Rather than launch straight from Earth to Jupiter, which would be impossible for their mission profile, they do the very sensible thing, and transfer spacecraft once in Earth orbit. There they dock with their waiting interplanetary (actually intergalactic) ship, the Endurance, which has been launched in pieces and assembled by robots.
Since it takes a lot of fuel to overcome the gravitational potential of the Earth, they do what every manned mission has done, and use a multistage vehicle. Most of what you are carrying is fuel, so it makes sense to ditch pieces of your spacecraft once they are empty, thereby lightening the load. This even becomes a major plot point towards the end of the film.
INTERSTELLAR- Rocket
That’s all great, except that for the entire middle of the film they ignore this. At some point they say that Miller’s planet, has 1.3 times Earth’s gravity. That means that it would take an even bigger multi-stage rocket than it took to launch from Earth to get off the surface. Yet they just use their little single-stage Ranger spacecraft to blast off again.
I understand why Nolan did this. He wanted to invoke the pride and wonder of the Apollo program in the Earth-based launch sequence. And yet they couldn’t repeat that on the planet, because obviously there was no infrastructure there. Well guess what, that means you don’t get to have the whole Apollo launch sequence in the first place! Sometimes movies have to make compromises on cool things for the sake of passing the laugh test. It would have been fine for the whole film to have just started out with advanced single-stage to orbit vehicles. But once you establish something else, you need to have internal consistency."
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:02 pm to BoostAddict
you're not taking into account the status of society at the time. it wasn't some technological utopia with unlimited means of production. society was crumbling and the population growth rate was in a negative decline.
the multi stage rocket was an artifact from another generation and it may very well have been all they had left.
the multi stage rocket was an artifact from another generation and it may very well have been all they had left.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:34 pm to demosa
fricking hell... 
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:35 pm to DelU249
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no one really knows what happens in a black hole, I think it's safe to assume that you get crushed to such a small size we can't even comprehend, but I do know that there isn't any stupid bookshelves made by humans so you can ghost stalk your daughter and create a motherfricking headache paradox
According to astrophysics theory, you do the complete opposite. But this is only through the direct middle...results would be skewed proportionally the closer to the edge you are.
Essentially you expand until you break into two pieces, and then those two pieces do the same thing, and then those 4, and then those 8, then 16, etc. etc. I am sure there is a video of Neil Degrasse Tyson talking about this somewhere on the internet. Probably even in relation to this movie.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:58 am to Tigers'Mojo
Rewatched last night.
I completely forgot at the beginning of the movie that Murph tells her dad "I thought you were the ghost." Talk about foreshadowing.
Also forgot how fricked up it was for Coop to tell his daughter, right before he had to leave "They chose me. You saw that. You're the one that led me to them." Who the frick tells their child that right before they basically abandon them for the rest of their life? He basically told her "Yeah, I'm leaving and it's your fault."
I wonder what made Tom's first kid (Jesse) die. I assume it was the black lung, which they were checking for later in the movie. But they never really say.
I know there was a lot of discussion in the original thread about whether or not the wormhole was still open at the end of the movie. While they don't definitively say, upon rewatch it has to be. I know that there was some debate as to whether or not Coop was leaving in the end to go find Brand, or just to explore in general..but it HAD to be to find Brand. That was the whole point of his last talk with Murph.
And speaking of that talk, I'm more cool with it than I was the first time around. They both had gotten their closure and said what they needed to say, and she knew that he was meant to do things better than just sitting around waiting for her to die (like going to Brand, for example). I still am not crazy about such a seemingly short reunion between the two of them, but I can at least appreciate it more upon a second viewing.
After seeing this a second time (first since I saw it in the theater), I came away with it with a greater appreciation for it. Especially the ending. And while I still think the last 30 minutes or so is definitely weaker than the rest of the movie, I think they did a solid job with it (as good as they could have with what they were trying to accomplish basically). I think I like it more than I did after seeing it the first time. It definitely could've gone down as one of the GOATs with a better ending, but it's still pretty awesome.
I completely forgot at the beginning of the movie that Murph tells her dad "I thought you were the ghost." Talk about foreshadowing.
Also forgot how fricked up it was for Coop to tell his daughter, right before he had to leave "They chose me. You saw that. You're the one that led me to them." Who the frick tells their child that right before they basically abandon them for the rest of their life? He basically told her "Yeah, I'm leaving and it's your fault."
I wonder what made Tom's first kid (Jesse) die. I assume it was the black lung, which they were checking for later in the movie. But they never really say.
I know there was a lot of discussion in the original thread about whether or not the wormhole was still open at the end of the movie. While they don't definitively say, upon rewatch it has to be. I know that there was some debate as to whether or not Coop was leaving in the end to go find Brand, or just to explore in general..but it HAD to be to find Brand. That was the whole point of his last talk with Murph.
And speaking of that talk, I'm more cool with it than I was the first time around. They both had gotten their closure and said what they needed to say, and she knew that he was meant to do things better than just sitting around waiting for her to die (like going to Brand, for example). I still am not crazy about such a seemingly short reunion between the two of them, but I can at least appreciate it more upon a second viewing.
After seeing this a second time (first since I saw it in the theater), I came away with it with a greater appreciation for it. Especially the ending. And while I still think the last 30 minutes or so is definitely weaker than the rest of the movie, I think they did a solid job with it (as good as they could have with what they were trying to accomplish basically). I think I like it more than I did after seeing it the first time. It definitely could've gone down as one of the GOATs with a better ending, but it's still pretty awesome.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:19 am to CocomoLSU
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Also forgot how fricked up it was for Coop to tell his daughter, right before he had to leave "They chose me. You saw that. You're the one that led me to them." Who the frick tells their child that right before they basically abandon them for the rest of their life? He basically told her "Yeah, I'm leaving and it's your fault."
That's one thing I would have changed is having Cooper sending himself there. Maybe have him leave and still be apprehensive on the Ghost's existence. Because him trying to get Murph to tell him to stay just doesn't make as much sense if he knows the Ghost is real when he leaves. I could see the "STAY" message slipping his mind if he didn't believe in the ghost when he left, and then as soon as he does the "STAY" message, he realizes that he was the Ghost all along.
And also it would have been pretty easy to just have the initial pilot for the Endurance die somehow, and then going to Cooper as the last resort to save humanity. Cooper just stumbling upon NASA and them not having a clue that he's still alive just didn't make much sense to me. NASA for sure would have at least kept tabs on him.
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And speaking of that talk, I'm more cool with it than I was the first time around. They both had gotten their closure and said what they needed to say, and she knew that he was meant to do things better than just sitting around waiting for her to die (like going to Brand, for example). I still am not crazy about such a seemingly short reunion between the two of them, but I can at least appreciate it more upon a second viewing.
The thing is the two of them had gone so long without seeing each other that really all the other needed from the other is closure. They both understood that they did what they had to do to save the species, and that while Murph's job was finished, Cooper still had stuff to do, and he needed to go out and do it rather than living with regret that he abandoned his daughter and trying to make amends for it.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:21 am to LeonPhelps
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Worst part: Matt Damon's conventional character
Damon is usually the worst part of a movie, but I hate him in real life and generally boycott his movies.
Damon's acting is pretty dreadful and yet about 10x better than his usual side kick, Afleck.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 12:06 pm to OMLandshark
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And also it would have been pretty easy to just have the initial pilot for the Endurance die somehow, and then going to Cooper as the last resort to save humanity. Cooper just stumbling upon NASA and them not having a clue that he's still alive just didn't make much sense to me. NASA for sure would have at least kept tabs on him.
Yeah, for such a long movie, they really rush that part. It's like Coop stumbles upon NASA and then ten minutes later he's blasting off into orbit. It's just really rushed.
Which makes me believe that the whole "Indian drone" side plot was completely unnecessary. They could've spent that time showing us more of Murph and Coop to make their departing mean more. It's such a weird movie in that normally movies like this build up to the person blasting off and leaving. But in this one, Coop does that within the first 20 or 30 minutes of the movie. So that bond between he and Murph wasn't built upon a whole movie. And I think they did a good job in the time that they had, but the drone part could've been scrapped altogether, or that time used to build up Murph and Coop more.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 2:15 pm to CocomoLSU
I have to believe that something substantial was cut out due to time restrictions. I look forward to a director's cut that may shed more light on that part of the story.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 3:52 pm to Tigers'Mojo
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According to astrophysics theory
it's also entirely possible that black holes which are just dead stars and worm holes, (if they exist) are entirely different things.
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