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re: Did Jon Hamm miss his wave?

Posted on 4/3/17 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 2:37 pm to
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I don't think he's an objectively good or great actor.


He was perfect for Draper, though. And he missed the "paying his dues" phase - he was trying to break into acting. But, when his peers (mid-20s) were stretching into HS and college roles, he looked like a grown arse man in his mid-30s - that "premature" maturity paid off for him in Mad Men.

I think he's doing okay with the residuals from that and just trying to keep busy. He would kill as the live action Archer, although Benjamin would probably have to do the voice over.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 2:38 pm to
Near impossible to do. He is a star. He had his lead role in a GOAT TV drama. I'd be curious if anybody goes on to "bigger" things. Thats what we are talking about.

To expect Hamm to go on and be Tom Hanks or Deniro after this would be unprecedented. Bosom Buddies was NOT great.

Julia Louis Dreyfus is the GOAT for continued success IMO. Went from a GOAT comedy, to continued Emmy's with Veep? But her career arc is basically a unicorn.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 2:44 pm to
Wow. How did I miss Trumbo?
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 2:57 pm to
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Yeah you just can't get away from Don Draper



To be fair, Cranston has gotten some big roles, and I'd say Walter White is a lot bigger than Don Draper.
This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 2:58 pm
Posted by BlueWaffleHouse
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 3:44 pm to
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Julia Louis Dreyfus is the GOAT for continued success IMO. Went from a GOAT comedy, to continued Emmy's with Veep? But her career arc is basically a unicorn.


Seinfeld ended in 1998, and VEEP didn't start until 2012, took her 14 years to get near that level of success again. Good thing she comes from a family of billionaires.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 3:51 pm to
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Seinfeld ended in 1998, and VEEP didn't start until 2012, took her 14 years to get near that level of success again. Good thing she comes from a family of billionaires.


Dude. She had five Emmy nominations and one win during those 14 years. She only won one Emmy for Seinfeld. It's not like she languished in the wilderness between gigs.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 3:55 pm to
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One odd thing about Hammy I've noticed is chicks ruining their panties when watching Mad Men, yet hardly seem to notice him when they see him in other things. I'm not sure I've ever seen that dynamic before.


It's because deep down women want a guy like Don Draper, warts and all.

They don't want Jon Hamm...who by the way, never seems all that cool in other roles. Like Brad Pitt and George Clooney were still kinda cool in different roles.

Hamm comes off sort of goofy in other roles. It's really strange.

He's like the two-face girlfriend in Seinfeld. In Mad Men he looks like a mega-star; in other roles he looks like a guy just happy to be there.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 3:56 pm to
He was in Keeping up with the Joneses. Hilarious movie. Jon Hamm is a comedian. He killed it in Mad Men, but I think he prefers to do funny roles.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 4:06 pm to
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He was in Keeping up with the Joneses. Hilarious movie.


I really enjoyed that movie.
Posted by TU Rob
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 4:07 pm to
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He was perfect for Draper, though. And he missed the "paying his dues" phase - he was trying to break into acting. But, when his peers (mid-20s) were stretching into HS and college roles, he looked like a grown arse man in his mid-30s - that "premature" maturity paid off for him in Mad Men.


Reminds me of the Mike Rowe podcast story. The Way I Heard It, if y'all haven't checked it out. It was early on in the podcast, episode 8.
Posted by monkeybutt
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 4:15 pm to
Yea that guy completely forgot about New Adventures of Old Christine. Kills his argument.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 4:20 pm to
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Wow. How did I miss Trumbo?


He was nominated for Trumbo and All The Way, but for the most part he's done shite like Why Him? and Godzilla and Power Rangers.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 4:40 pm to
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To be fair, Cranston has gotten some big roles, and I'd say Walter White is a lot bigger than Don Draper.


I wouldn't. I loved both shows, it's a push.
Posted by monkeybutt
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 4:52 pm to
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I wouldn't. I loved both shows, it's a push.


Bryan Cranston as Walter White won 4/6 Emmys. White is the bigger role between the two. We're not talking personal preference here.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 4:55 pm to
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Bryan Cranston as Walter White won 4/6 Emmys. White is the bigger role between the two


Apples and oranges. Mad Men was an ensemble cast with Don as the lead. BB is a study of a man and an ensemble assembled around him.

The Emmy thing was ridiculous. No way Hamm should have only got one.

If we are counting lines, then yes Walter was bigger.
Posted by SCTmo
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 4:59 pm to
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He was in Keeping up with the Joneses. Hilarious movie. Jon Hamm is a comedian. He killed it in Mad Men, but I think he prefers to do funny roles.



I think you hit the nail on the head. The guy was perfect as Don and has leading man good looks, but it seems like he's at his happiest when he's playing a guest star in a random sitcom. From Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt to Wet Hot American Summer: First Day of Camp to appearing in black face on 30 Rock; it's clear he just enjoys getting to be goofy.
This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 5:00 pm
Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 5:06 pm to
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The guy was humping it working small roles and waiting tables into his 30s.

I bet hes just having fun and enjoying life.


This. He's seemingly in St. Louis at Cardinals games as often as Bill Murray is at Chicago sporting events.
Posted by timbo
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 5:09 pm to
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Seinfeld ended in 1998, and VEEP didn't start until 2012, took her 14 years to get near that level of success again. Good thing she comes from a family of billionaires.


Dude. She had five Emmy nominations and one win during those 14 years. She only won one Emmy for Seinfeld. It's not like she languished in the wilderness between gigs.



And I doubt that Seinfeld paid her with Bed, Bath & Beyond coupons.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 5:25 pm to
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And I doubt that Seinfeld paid her with Bed, Bath & Beyond coupons.


She was one of the richest people in the business before Seinfeld.

Her father was a multi-billionaire.

Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 5:29 pm to
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Reminds me of the Mike Rowe podcast story. The Way I Heard It, if y'all haven't checked it out. It was early on in the podcast, episode 8.


I hadn't heard it, but I just listened to it - yeah that's pretty much the story as I understand it.

More cool trivia- Don Draper and Nina Myers went to HS prom together.
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