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re: Why has Mike Gundy been passed over so much?
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:22 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:22 pm to WestCoastAg
This is his first year as DC so he may not be the hot name. It is amazing the longest tenured OC is Todd Haley.
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:23 pm to sms151t
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Recruiting rankings mean nothing in this
The ability to recruit means nothing on whether a job is a lateral move or not? Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:23 pm to lsupride87
Wow you really think aTm is a better program than Arkansas? You need your head checked. They are on the same level. Both of them are better jobs than oSu.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:25 pm to sms151t
quote:I believe the same coach will have more success at A&M over Arky
Wow you really think aTm is a better program than Arkansas?
For example, if you could clone a coach, he will win more at A&M because he will get far better recruits.
That is the whole basis of this argument. What programs would be better for Gundy
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:26 pm to WestCoastAg
Why would he leave??? easier shot to playoff, has a billionaire funding his program.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:26 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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They are tier three programs at best, all of them
What are your tier rankings?
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:27 pm to lsupride87
Gundy would do the same at Arkansas and aTm. They are the same program. When you line them up over history and now, they are the same level.
oSu is the step below, until recently. I am sorry you do not get how much money and facilities are in Fayetteville when it comes to football.
Gundy would be smart to never leave oSu and he wont unless somebody offers him NFL type money.
oSu is the step below, until recently. I am sorry you do not get how much money and facilities are in Fayetteville when it comes to football.
Gundy would be smart to never leave oSu and he wont unless somebody offers him NFL type money.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:28 pm to sms151t
quote:sure
They are the same program. When you line them up over history
quote:a coach would choose a&m before arky right now in todays college football
and now,
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:28 pm to sms151t
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Gundy would do the same at Arkansas and aTm. They are the same program. When you line them up over history and now, they are the same level.
oSu is the step below, until recently. I am sorry you do not get how much money and facilities are in Fayetteville when it comes to football.
According to your logic, it is easier for the same coach to win at Nebraska than it is at FSU, UF, or LSU
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:31 pm to lsupride87
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That is the whole basis of this argument. What programs would be better for Gundy
True but purely looking at which school will naturally recruit better isn't the only factor if we are trying to judge future landing spots.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:32 pm to WestCoastAg
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a coach would choose a&m before arky right now in todays college football
Unless said coach doesn't want to deal with the unrealistic expectations at A&M.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:32 pm to lsupride87
According to your logic you just win based on recruits and you and I both know that the bigger the newspaper and the more money he spends to go to a camp, the higher the ranking a recruit gets.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:32 pm to rockiee
sure, but that is the main difference when comparing a&m and arkansas. arkansas has money, just like a&m does. arkansas has facilities, just like a&m does. but a&m has an easier time recruiting than arkansas does
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:32 pm to WestCoastAg
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a coach would choose a&m before arky right now in todays college football
I could believe this if everything is in a vacumm but that really isn't the case with Gundy. I seriously doubt he ends up at either school though.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:32 pm to rockiee
quote:True. I am speaking at where I think it is "easier to win." That is my way of ranking.
but purely looking at which school will naturally recruit better isn't the only factor if we are trying to judge future landing spots.
For example, it is easier to win at Bama than Vandy, but some coaches make like Vandy because there is less pressure and fits their personality more
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:33 pm to Moustache
Several of those jobs on your list are not even step ups. And most arent significantly better jobs to warrant a change
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:33 pm to WestCoastAg
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sure, but that is the main difference when comparing a&m and arkansas. arkansas has money, just like a&m does. arkansas has facilities, just like a&m does. but a&m has an easier time recruiting than arkansas does
And Arkansas has the edge when it comes to personal reasons, no telling how serious that is to him though
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:34 pm to sms151t
quote:Absolutely when we are talking about a clone coach. How can someone disagree?
According to your logic you just win based on recruits
The same exact coach is going to win more when he has better players.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:34 pm to rockiee
im talking in generalities here. of course, it depends on the person we are talking about
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:35 pm to sms151t
I think we would offer more money for a staff and I think our facilities are nicer (though Arkansas' are very nice as well). The difference isn't huge though and I doubt that translates much to on field success
I think the biggest difference between the two as far as attractiveness to a prospective head coach is the natural recruiting base. I think we are ahead of Arkansas as far as being attractive to a coaching candidate but I don't think it's by a lot. I'm also biased
I think the biggest difference between the two as far as attractiveness to a prospective head coach is the natural recruiting base. I think we are ahead of Arkansas as far as being attractive to a coaching candidate but I don't think it's by a lot. I'm also biased
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 3:36 pm
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