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re: Why has Mike Gundy been passed over so much?
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:37 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:37 pm to WestCoastAg
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im talking in generalities here. of course, it depends on the person we are talking about
Right and I think what you said applies to most of the coaches. Just like even if everything was 100% the same between A&M and Arky, I wouldn't like our odds to grab Morris.
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:38 pm to lsupride87
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True. I am speaking at where I think it is "easier to win." That is my way of ranking.
For example, it is easier to win at Bama than Vandy, but some coaches make like Vandy because there is less pressure and fits their personality more
Ya, that is one of the many factors that can come into play.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:38 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:I think it is a huge difference
I think the biggest difference between the two as far as attractiveness to a prospective head coach is the natural recruiting base. I think we are ahead of Arkansas as far as being attractive to a coaching candidate but I don't think it's by a lot. I'm also biased
For example:
Urban, Dabo, or Saban could build a perennial championship contending dynasty at A&M. The right coach absolutely has the recruiting to do so.
Those coaches could not do that at Arky. The natural recruiting base just isnt there. They could make them a damn good program, but not a true power
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:39 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
I do not think aTm facilities are nicer. Having been to both. I do think aTm has easier recruiting advantage as they can stay in state. Arkansas has had an advantage though by being able to go into multiple metros, but for some reason that is not happening as much.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:40 pm to sms151t
When were you last at A&M to see the facilities? Aside from the practice bubble I don't think any of our current facilities existed 5 years ago
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:42 pm to lsupride87
Do you know what the "natural recruiting base" is of Arkansas?
The box is from KC to St Louis to Dallas.
They have abandoned the triangle lately to go into Minnesota and Up north though for the OL and take all the kids instate. Petrino allowed the triangle to get busted.
The box is from KC to St Louis to Dallas.
They have abandoned the triangle lately to go into Minnesota and Up north though for the OL and take all the kids instate. Petrino allowed the triangle to get busted.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:43 pm to lsupride87
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Urban, Dabo, or Saban could build a perennial championship contending dynasty at A&M. The right coach absolutely has the recruiting to do so.
I think you have to be a little careful here. I would always rather be in A&M's spot when compared to Arkansas but they have had a unique situation the last few years.
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Those coaches could not do that at Arky. The natural recruiting base just isnt there.
Agreed, some still don't really understand how bad it is compared to most of the other SEC schools.
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They could make them a damn good program, but not a true power
Eh, any school can really become this with a great coach that is willing to stay 10 years plus but that is very unlikely.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:44 pm to sms151t
quote:when was the last time you have been? cause there have been a lot of major changes and most of those dumb offseason articles ranking facilities generally put a&ms above arkansas, not by a whole lot, but usually ahead
I do not think aTm facilities are nicer. Having been to both.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:44 pm to lsupride87
I guess, I think Arkansas has had some mediocre recruiters overall as coaches as well. Petrino and Bielema haven't exactly lit it up on the recruiting trail at other programs either. I think there's a lot to sell recruiting wise at Arkansas to players from outside the state
If Tennessee can pull in big classes these days I think Arkansas could with a really good recruiter
If Tennessee can pull in big classes these days I think Arkansas could with a really good recruiter
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:45 pm to sms151t
quote:Has Arky ever had a top 10 class?
Do you know what the "natural recruiting base" is of Arkansas?
The box is from KC to St Louis to Dallas.
They have abandoned the triangle lately to go into Minnesota and Up north though and take all the kids instate.
LSU had top 10 classes in the old magazine days even under freaking Hallman and Archer
A&M has had top 10 classes in the last 5 years. Arky just doesnt
And for the Arky fan in here that isnt a put down(rockie). It is just the hand they were dealt. It is a gorgeous school in the ozarks. I love it. But it doesnt have a natural recruiting base that is top notch that you are truing to sell.
I pretty much think every sports opinion you have is awful (sms). Where is reauxl?
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:45 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
i would think it would be easier for them if they hired someone like morris who can get them an in with texas high school coaches
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:47 pm to Moustache
How many times has this been posted in the 4 pages ?
I think he just turned 50, can't believe that's 10 yrs old.
I think he just turned 50, can't believe that's 10 yrs old.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:47 pm to WestCoastAg
Last time I was in Bryan/College Station was 3 years ago? But last time I was really inside aTm non game facilities was probably Sherman's next to last year?
I just think Arkansas has better ones, but I also have been inside Arkansas stiff more, not just outside. When they finish whatever they are doing to JFB Complex it will be interesting.
I just think Arkansas has better ones, but I also have been inside Arkansas stiff more, not just outside. When they finish whatever they are doing to JFB Complex it will be interesting.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:49 pm to sms151t
Arkies facilities are nice as shite.
However, one football stadium holds 76k, the other holds 102k
That shows you the power of their alum/recruiting ability. There is just more interest in A&M
However, one football stadium holds 76k, the other holds 102k
That shows you the power of their alum/recruiting ability. There is just more interest in A&M
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:49 pm to sms151t
We have redone basically everything since Sherman left. Locker rooms, weight rooms, player lounges, stadium obviously. I think the indoor facility is the only thing that is basically the same. Both programs have nice facilities so I don't really see that as a breaking point for any coach between the two though
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:49 pm to lsupride87
Again you think recruiting alone makes a program? You are retarded in that one. Why do you keep spouting off recruiting rankings that do nothing for a program? There are tons more things than recruiting that make a program. I thought you were a NCAA athlete at once, you apparently weren't if you hold this opinion.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:51 pm to sms151t
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Why is aTm not lateral if Arkansas is? Arkansas has better facilities, higher operating budget, not sharing a state, and has the same history, if not better.
Because Arkansas is a shite state for talent. Tamu is in the epicenter of Texas talent. Close to Houston, east Texas, and closer to Dallas than Ut. I think tamu is a sleeping giant....plus their stadium seats a shitload more than arkansas.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:52 pm to sms151t
quote:ARE YOU SLOW?
Again you think recruiting alone makes a program? You are retarded in that one. Why do you keep spouting off recruiting rankings that do nothing for a program?
We are talkng about which program is wanted more by the same coach you moron. What they did in the past has nothing to do with the potential of a future coach. Lsu sucked balls for years but was prime to be good with the right coach due to recruiting grounds. Same with FSU and UF.
If there were message boards in the early 90s you would have been the genius I get to bump threads for because you would have said UF,FSU, and LSU will never be great
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:53 pm to sms151t
quote:I was. And I can tell you as one, the team with the better recruits(AKA fricking players) won most of the damn time
thought you were a NCAA athlete at once, you apparently weren't if you hold this opinion.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:53 pm to sms151t
A&M has spent north of 32 million dollars on football facility's other than Kyle Field since you were last there
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