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Posted on 10/31/11 at 5:55 pm to DelU249
Posted on 10/31/11 at 5:55 pm to DelU249
Would you be making this thread if Cam Newton was blowing penis? No. Stop using hindsight, dipshit.
If you remember, the first mock drafts had Cam as a mid-first round pick. Obviously, Cam impressed the scouts enough to be #1, but he was not projected to be the god like Andrew Luck is.
Seriously, go watch Andrew Luck play. He is terrific.
If you remember, the first mock drafts had Cam as a mid-first round pick. Obviously, Cam impressed the scouts enough to be #1, but he was not projected to be the god like Andrew Luck is.
Seriously, go watch Andrew Luck play. He is terrific.
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Posted on 10/31/11 at 5:56 pm to Lester Earl
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but he still has a ways to go before he becomes a elite NFL passer
not that far, and he is still in his rookie season
Posted on 10/31/11 at 5:57 pm to DelU249
you are asking why is he better; tell me of all things I listed, which one is Cam better than Luck at? Yes, he has all those attributes, but none really better than Luck other than running outside the pocket.
There's your answer. No one is saying Cam sucks. But he is not better than Luck at any of those things nor did he have the luxury of better tutored under an NFL QB in a pro style offense.
There's your answer. No one is saying Cam sucks. But he is not better than Luck at any of those things nor did he have the luxury of better tutored under an NFL QB in a pro style offense.
This post was edited on 10/31/11 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 10/31/11 at 5:59 pm to Lester Earl
That Newton isn't an elite pro passer. If that's the case, how many are there since Cam is in the top 3-5 in nearly every passing statistic as a rookie.
This post was edited on 10/31/11 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 10/31/11 at 5:59 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Andrew Luck play
he is a terrific QB and no doubt he should be the #1 pick, I guess I'm just wondering why the scouts AND fans think so differently of the two as prospects, and I don't think race has a fricking thing to do with it, but I would like to know why,
and cam isn't blowing penis, he is awesome, like I expect Luck to be, but Luck is the best prospect ever on this board, why was Cam not viewed as highly?
Posted on 10/31/11 at 6:01 pm to Lester Earl
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No one is saying Cam sucks
as a prospect everyone was saying he sucks.
and I think cam is bigger, faster and has the same arm strenght, I see a couple of things Luck did marginally better, but nothing to explain the disparity of how the two were viewed at the same stage
Posted on 10/31/11 at 6:01 pm to Costanza
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That Newton isn't an elite pro passer. If that's the case, how many are there since Cam is in the top 3-5 in nearly every passing statistic as a rookie.
he is having a good rookie year, but how can you say he is an elite passer at this point?
he is in the company of Brady, Brees, Rodgers, etc?
Posted on 10/31/11 at 6:02 pm to DelU249
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and cam isn't blowing penis, he is awesome, like I expect Luck to be, but Luck is the best prospect ever on this board, why was Cam not viewed as highly?
My point flew over your head. If Cam Newton was having a terrible rookie year, then would you be starting this thread? I doubt it.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 6:03 pm to Lester Earl
Statistically, yes. He is.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 6:03 pm to Lester Earl
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he is in the company of Brady, Brees, Rodgers
I think Luck has a ways to go as well before he gets in that company, but surprisingly, Cam ain't too far behind and he plays on a shite team
Posted on 10/31/11 at 6:03 pm to Lester Earl
He is considered a better prospect because when scouts saw Cam it equaled to Jamarcus Russell in their minds...
Posted on 10/31/11 at 6:03 pm to DelU249
HH is correct. Luck is polished. Newton was (and still is) raw.
Luck has elite passer written all over him. Due to his lack of polish, the same could not be said for Newton last year.
Luck has elite passer written all over him. Due to his lack of polish, the same could not be said for Newton last year.
This post was edited on 10/31/11 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 10/31/11 at 6:04 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
yeah...because blowing penis as a rookie in the NFL is not a big deal. Most every qb sucks their rookie year
Posted on 10/31/11 at 6:04 pm to Costanza
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Statistically, no. He is not.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 6:05 pm to jdawg24
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Jamarcus Russell
did cam have sleep apnea?
Posted on 10/31/11 at 6:07 pm to DelU249
Look, obviously you are not going to change your short-sighted opinion, so there is no point explaining it.
Andrew Luck is better than Cam Newton (at Auburn) at every single aspect of the game, except for running outside of the pocket.
Put it this way. Who is the better student? Student A gets a 100% on every assignment. Student B gets around a 90% on his assignments. Andrew Luck is student A. It is that simple. He is just a better prospect because he is better at being at a QB.
Andrew Luck is better than Cam Newton (at Auburn) at every single aspect of the game, except for running outside of the pocket.
Put it this way. Who is the better student? Student A gets a 100% on every assignment. Student B gets around a 90% on his assignments. Andrew Luck is student A. It is that simple. He is just a better prospect because he is better at being at a QB.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 6:09 pm to Costanza
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Statistically, yes. He is.
what stats? what planet are you on?
guys like Rodgers and Brees are completing 70% of their passes.
Newton is barely over 60
Posted on 10/31/11 at 6:17 pm to DelU249
I didn't think Cam had the accuracy to make it in the NFL. I still think that it will be the hurdle he has trouble with before being considered "elite"
66% last year when a lot of those completions were due to wide open passes thanks to his run game
while Luck has had 70%+ completion percentage the last two years with much less at receiver than Cam has
66% last year when a lot of those completions were due to wide open passes thanks to his run game
while Luck has had 70%+ completion percentage the last two years with much less at receiver than Cam has
This post was edited on 10/31/11 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 10/31/11 at 6:20 pm to Costanza
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If that's the case, how many are there since Cam is in the top 3-5 in nearly every passing statistic as a rookie.
cam is 13th in passer rating and 18th in completion percentage
Posted on 10/31/11 at 6:22 pm to Costanza
quote:Brady, Brees, Rodgers - 104.4, 100.6, and an absolutely insane 125.7
Statistically, yes. He is.
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Cam Newton
87.1
sorry, he's not even close to those guys statistically
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