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No, if you followed the link you would realize that only 4 of 19 were multiple year starters. In a program that depends on seniors making a significant contribution, it's a killer.

you depend on 5th year seniors making contributions? because that is who the 2009 class would be.

What about your 4th year seniors?

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Posted by tigerpimpbot

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Posted on 1/20/14 at 7:38 pm to wilceaux

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The brief window in time when LSU fans gave a shite about Iowa has closed.

Nailed it

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Posted by BrewHawk

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Posted on 1/20/14 at 7:49 pm to bperki6

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BEFORE THE BOWL:

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Posted byMessageBrewHawkOff the cuff thoughts about the Outback Bowl...

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5. This is an Iowa team that is young and improving,

AFTER THE BOWL:

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BrewHawkThis was the 5th year senior class you guys beat in Tampa (link)...

Holy cow you guys can't read. The whole point of the post was that we didn't have hardly any seniors from that class contribute.

Iowa's successful teams rely on seniors to contribute. We've had to play younger players who weren't ready, but the experience they gain will make them even better as upperclassmen, which is why I'm excited about the young talent we have.

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Posted by bperki6

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Posted on 1/20/14 at 7:53 pm to BrewHawk

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Holy cow you guys can't read.

Tell you the truth, I didn't read your sorry article, why would I want to read about the Iowa Hawkeyes on a LSU Tiger board, just going off your thread title. Just trying to add humor needed to a thread and very sorry for not reading on your Iowa Hawkeyes. I will give you this they hung tough even with the abysmal officiating. After probably the next ten years of playing them, I will be sure to check on you guys again.

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Posted by BrewHawk

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Posted on 1/20/14 at 7:55 pm to SammyTiger

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you depend on 5th year seniors making contributions? because that is who the 2009 class would be.

What about your 4th year seniors?

It was a better recruiting class and they were much needed because the two previous classes before them sucked so bad.

We don't typically play true freshmaan in starting roles unless we have to. All three LBs played as TFs because we lost every other LB in front of them. Hence the linebackerpocalypse that was mentioned in the article.

Typically our TF will play on special teams to get their feet wet and are #2-3 on the depth chart.

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Posted by Buddy Garrity

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Posted on 1/20/14 at 8:19 pm to BrewHawk

what are you trying to get at with this thread?

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Posted by easy money

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Posted on 1/20/14 at 8:35 pm to Buddy Garrity

We are lucky to have guys for 4 years much less 5. Jump on a tractor and ride out.

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Posted by SammyTiger

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Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:51 pm to BrewHawk

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It was a better recruiting class and they were much needed because the two previous classes before them sucked so bad.

We don't typically play true freshmaan in starting roles unless we have to. All three LBs played as TFs because we lost every other LB in front of them. Hence the linebackerpocalypse that was mentioned in the article.

Typically our TF will play on special teams to get their feet wet and are #2-3 on the depth chart.

Thats not the point. Saying we only beat y'all because you didn't have any 5th year seniors is crazy. How many teams do you think are just chalked full of 5th year seniors? Do you think if your players were still hanging around after 5 years they would be good enough to beat LSU? Great players don't stay 4 years much less 5.

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Posted by BrewHawk

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Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:01 pm to SammyTiger

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Thats not the point. Saying we only beat y'all because you didn't have any 5th year seniors is crazy. How many teams do you think are just chalked full of 5th year seniors? Do you think if your players were still hanging around after 5 years they would be good enough to beat LSU? Great players don't stay 4 years much less 5.

You just don't understand how Iowa's program is set up. Iowa wins with mature players, not young talent. Totally opposite from LSU. We just can't get the recruits you do, so we have to build players and that takes time.

We do have some players who leave early (Dallas Clark, Brian Bulaga, Reilly Reiff, Shonn Greene and some others), but the majority of players are there for a full college career and leave with a degree.

I think it speaks volumes that we average recruiting class ranks in the forties, but have the 15th most players in the NFL.

We do much more with "less" than nearly anyone else. This is a testament to the coaching and one of the reasons Ferentz is payed as well as he is. For little old Iowa to finish in the top ten 25% of his career is truly amazing. We also are the 15th most valuable college program in the nation per Forbes.

This from the third smallest school in the Big Ten with the second least populous state in the BT that puts out fewer than ten D-1 recruits per year and splits them with another BCS conference school.

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Posted by ShermanTxTiger

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Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:31 pm to BrewHawk

Yes we had better players.

Cool story Bro

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Posted by biglego

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Posted on 1/21/14 at 12:13 am to BrewHawk

I do expect Iowa to improve.

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Posted by Bigpoppat

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Posted on 1/21/14 at 12:37 am to BrewHawk

Ferentz is garbage

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Posted by Old Money

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Posted on 1/21/14 at 12:56 am to BrewHawk

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The whole point of the post was that we didn't have hardly any seniors from that class contribute.

Iowa's successful teams rely on seniors to contribute. We've had to play younger players who weren't ready, but the experience they gain will make them even better as upperclassmen, which is why I'm excited about the young talent we have.

Not trying to be a dick but honestly, no one here cares. A loss is a loss and you just keep bringing up these seniors no one at LSU or involved with LSU cares about. This isn't the Hawkeye board. Go post this on the more sports board or something.

Good luck to Iowa next year but please, stop.

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Posted by Jrv2damac

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Posted on 1/21/14 at 1:08 am to BrewHawk

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What in the world happened here in the last 5-10 years?

shite...this was over 9 years ago already. Hard to think about sometimes.

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Posted by KG5989

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Posted on 1/21/14 at 1:50 am to BrewHawk

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the reasons Ferentz is payed as well as he is. For little old Iowa to finish in the top ten 25% of his career is truly amazing.

So a team that has the 15th most players in the NFL and is the 15th most valuable program in the nation..... finishes in the top 10 ONLY 25% of the time??

Thats not good.

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Posted by SabiDojo

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Posted on 1/21/14 at 1:53 am to BrewHawk

Honestly, Mettenberger would have blown the doors off Iowa. Iowa got off pretty easy.

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Posted by Topisawtiger

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Posted on 1/21/14 at 2:27 am to BrewHawk

Brew, everything you posted to make your point is valid. Many of us down here are Iowa fans to a certain extent and yes you guys do well with what you get recruiting wise. Only thing I have an issue with is you thinking that having a stable full of 5th year seniors would have given you guys a victory. With your talent level, ain't gonna happen 9 out of 10 ten times. The other time LSU would give the game away, like they tried to with the 'pick six' (yeah I know) and the long return. For Iowa to line up against LSU man to man and win, well, sorry pal but I don't mean to sound pompous but you guys aren't there yet. But, like many on here, I do wish you well and plan on following the Hawks in the future. Good luck.....

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Posted on 1/21/14 at 2:43 am to Buddy Garrity