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re: Saints win b/c of new overtime rules. Overtime rules still suck.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 4:49 pm to CubsFanBudMan
Posted on 10/5/14 at 4:49 pm to CubsFanBudMan
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So if the other team wins the coin toss, and scores a TD, it's still fair,
Yes
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Posted on 10/5/14 at 4:50 pm to CubsFanBudMan
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So if the other team wins the coin toss, and scores a TD, it's still fair, because they worked so hard to win the coin toss and both defenses suck
You do know that the team is more than the offense, right?
Posted on 10/5/14 at 4:55 pm to SabiDojo
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You do know that the team is more than the offense, right?
I think this plays into both arguments.
Team have both an offense and a defense but with the current rules you can automatically cancel out 1/2 of each team.
It make no sense. Both teams should have a chance with the ball. If you score a TD, then they have to or its over.
Sudden death, the way it is now, is horrible. If you win the coin flip you pretty much win the game.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 4:55 pm to SabiDojo
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You do know that the team is more than the offense, right?
So why not make both teams play defense?
Posted on 10/5/14 at 4:56 pm to CubsFanBudMan
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So why not make both teams play defense?
Don't commit the illegal contact on third down and both teams would have.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 4:57 pm to CubsFanBudMan
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So why not make both teams play defense?
You mean like in the previous 4 quarters? Both teams on both sides of the ball have plenty of chances to win the game. If you lose in overtime, look in the mirror, not in the rulebook.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 5:03 pm to Tactical1
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Don't commit the illegal contact on third down and both teams would have
Who's to say the other defense wouldn't have committed illegal contact. Or even worse, the ensuing kickoff gets returned for a TD to re-tie the score. Not only are you saying that only 1 team's defense matters, but that the flip side of special teams doesn't matter. What happens if the first team scores a TD but misses the extra point? Oh wait, we don't care about the kicking unit if a TD is scored.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 5:06 pm to CubsFanBudMan
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Who's to say the other defense wouldn't have committed illegal contact. Or even worse, the ensuing kickoff gets returned for a TD to re-tie the score. Not only are you saying that only 1 team's defense matters, but that the flip side of special teams doesn't matter. What happens if the first team scores a TD but misses the extra point? Oh wait, we don't care about the kicking unit if a TD is scored.
The problem is, you want to play the "what if" game.
What if X happens, What if Y happens? This is not even a new rule anymore, been around for years now.
The Saints won the game within the rules that they had too. Just like 31 other teams have had too.
This post was edited on 10/5/14 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 10/5/14 at 5:07 pm to lsutigers1992
Go to the old NFL Europe rules. Put 10 min on the clock, each team gets a full possession. If one of the teams doesn't get to complete a possession, any score by the first team is negated and the game ends in a tie. If after both teams have a possession the score is tied, next team to score wins.
Me personally, I would do a hybrid of that and college rules. I would take those rules, and if the game is tied after the 10 min go to college rules overtime, but start from the 15 yard line and take field goals/PATs/2-pt conversions out of the game until one team gets a TD and the other doesn't.
Me personally, I would do a hybrid of that and college rules. I would take those rules, and if the game is tied after the 10 min go to college rules overtime, but start from the 15 yard line and take field goals/PATs/2-pt conversions out of the game until one team gets a TD and the other doesn't.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 5:08 pm to SabiDojo
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You mean like in the previous 4 quarters? Both teams on both sides of the ball have plenty of chances to win the game. If you lose in overtime, look in the mirror, not in the rulebook.
Ok, so what if regulation ends 0 - 0? Then the OT kickoff gets returned for a TD. Shouldn't the other team get to match that?
Posted on 10/5/14 at 5:09 pm to CubsFanBudMan
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Ok, so what if regulation ends 0 - 0? Then the OT kickoff gets returned for a TD. Shouldn't the other team get to match that?
No.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 5:09 pm to CubsFanBudMan
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Ok, so what if regulation ends 0 - 0? Then the OT kickoff gets returned for a TD. Shouldn't the other team get to match that?
No. Why would this scenario change my answer?
Posted on 10/5/14 at 5:11 pm to wildtigercat93
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lulz at using drastically different sports to compare to football. great argument there.
Explain to me how it's any more rational than saying that "if your team can't play (insert random minority portion of a team game that validates your theory), then you don't deserve to win."
If you can say "if a team can't play defense for one random possession, you don't deserve to win," then I can say about basketball "if your team can't play perimeter defense and gives up a 3 on the first possession of overtime, then they don't deserve to win."
It's a slippery slippery stupid slope.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 5:12 pm to lsutigers1992
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If you can say "if a team can't play defense for one random possession, you don't deserve to win,"
But it's not one random possession.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 5:15 pm to Tactical1
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The problem is, you want to play the "what if" game.
What if X happens, What if Y happens? This is not even a new rule anymore, been around for years now.
The Saints won the game within the rules that they had too. Just like 31 other teams have had too.
I'm not saying that I'm not happy with the win. The job of the rules committee is to take into account all of the what ifs. All the OP is saying is that he doesn't like the current rule. I'm not saying to take the win away from the Saints, or even to change the rule mid-season. I'm just saying that there should be some honest debate about it during the off-season. One year the Super Bowl might end like this. Is that what it will take to change the rule?
Posted on 10/5/14 at 5:17 pm to CubsFanBudMan
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One year the Super Bowl might end like this. Is that what it will take to change the rule?
Well since we have had 48 Super Bowls and not one ever go to overtime, I think we are okay right now.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 5:18 pm to Tactical1
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But it's not one random possession.
Then why play 4 quarters? Make the opening kickoff just as important. After all, that's not one random possession.
There's a reason that ever team that wins the OT coin flip takes the ball.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 5:20 pm to lsutigers1992
Why don't we just turn NFL's OT into something like NBA's OT.
10 minutes on the clock, play it out. If it ends in a tie at the end of the 10 minutes, its a tie. That way you have to play offense and defense 99% of the time.
10 minutes on the clock, play it out. If it ends in a tie at the end of the 10 minutes, its a tie. That way you have to play offense and defense 99% of the time.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 5:21 pm to Tactical1
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Well since we have had 48 Super Bowls and not one ever go to overtime, I think we are okay right now.
So you're saying we've had 3 weeks worth of regular season games played without an event happening, so we shouldn't expect that event to ever happen.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 5:24 pm to Lester Earl
I'd favor an overtime system that essentially says "if you have possession of the football AND have the lead, you have won the game"
You score a TD? Kick off and stop the opposition from scoring a TD and you win.
You kick a FG? Alright, well the other team can kick a FG to tie or score a TD to take the lead, but the game doesn't end unless a team gets a stop with the lead.
You score a TD? Kick off and stop the opposition from scoring a TD and you win.
You kick a FG? Alright, well the other team can kick a FG to tie or score a TD to take the lead, but the game doesn't end unless a team gets a stop with the lead.
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