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re: More impressive Masters
Posted on 4/13/15 at 6:52 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 4/13/15 at 6:52 pm to lsupride87
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Dont even attempt to say 97 had a weaker field. That is a joke
You realize that list includes majors won after the 1997 masters...
Posted on 4/13/15 at 6:53 pm to Golfer
quote:Uhh yeh. What is your point?
You realize that list includes majors won after the 1997 masters.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 6:56 pm to lsupride87
There are more than a few serious tiger haters in here saying '97. That tells me all I need to know.
I'm a huge Spieth fan fwiw.
I'm a huge Spieth fan fwiw.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 6:58 pm to lsupride87
You can't say how weak the field was this week then since you don't have 18 years and 72 more possible winners
Posted on 4/13/15 at 6:58 pm to tigerpimpbot
I think they are equally impressive for different reasons:
Tigers is so impressive because he was able to score that low when everyone else couldnt remotely come close
Spieths is impressive because he was able to shoot that low with an extreme amount of pressure with people chasing
Tigers is so impressive because he was able to score that low when everyone else couldnt remotely come close
Spieths is impressive because he was able to shoot that low with an extreme amount of pressure with people chasing
Posted on 4/13/15 at 7:00 pm to lsupride87
Agreed. I just think the wire to wire is so rare and hard to do at Augusta, in particular.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 7:00 pm to Golfer
quote:Where did I say this? Link please
You can't say how weak the field was this week
I posted that list to show how dumb it is to say the field was weak in 97. It had some of golfs greatest, just like this week did
This post was edited on 4/13/15 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 4/13/15 at 7:09 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 4/13/15 at 7:50 pm to Choupique19
Here are the 1997 pga tour money leaders.
1 Tiger Woods 21 2,066,833
2 David Duval 29 1,885,308
3 Davis Love III 25 1,635,953
4 Jim Furyk 27 1,619,480
5 Justin Leonard 29 1,587,531
6 Scott Hoch 22 1,393,788
7 Greg Norman 15 1,345,856
8 Steve Elkington 17 1,320,411
9 Ernie Els 19 1,243,008
10 Brad Faxon 23 1,233,505
11 Phil Mickelson 21 1,225,390
12 Jesper Parnevik 19 1,217,587 13 Mark O'Meara 22 1,124,560
14 Mark Calcavecchia 1,117,36
15 Loren Roberts 24 1,089,140
16 Vijay Singh 21 1,059,236
17 Nick Price 16 1,053,845
18 Stuart Appleby 23 1,003,356
19 Tom Lehman 21 960,584
20 Steve Jones 24 959,108
Here's the 2014 money leaders
1 Rory McIlroy 17 8,280,096
2 Bubba Watson 21 6,336,978
3 Jim Furyk 21 5,987,395
4 Jimmy Walker 27 5,787,016
5 Sergio Garcia 16 4,939,606
6 Chris Kirk 28 4,854,777
7 Billy Horschel 27 4,814,787
8 Rickie Fowler 26 4,806,117
9 Matt Kuchar 24 4,695,515
10 Martin Kaymer 19 4,532,537
11 Jordan Spieth 27 4,342,748
12 Dustin Johnson 17 4,249,180
13 Adam Scott 17 4,098,588
14 Patrick Reed 28 4,026,076
15 Justin Rose 19 3,926,768
16 Jason Day 15 3,789,574
17 Webb Simpson 25 3,539,601
18 Brendon Todd 29 3,396,747
19 Zach Johnson 26 3,353,417
20 Kevin Na 27 3,153,107
I used 14 because this year there haven't been enough tournaments to rule out a guy being on a hot streak.
I'm not sure I can agree with the thought that today's fields are better then 97. Golf was different then but the top guys in 97 were darn good at the time with there equipment and the top guys now are also good. I think the fields are closer then some people think.
1 Tiger Woods 21 2,066,833
2 David Duval 29 1,885,308
3 Davis Love III 25 1,635,953
4 Jim Furyk 27 1,619,480
5 Justin Leonard 29 1,587,531
6 Scott Hoch 22 1,393,788
7 Greg Norman 15 1,345,856
8 Steve Elkington 17 1,320,411
9 Ernie Els 19 1,243,008
10 Brad Faxon 23 1,233,505
11 Phil Mickelson 21 1,225,390
12 Jesper Parnevik 19 1,217,587 13 Mark O'Meara 22 1,124,560
14 Mark Calcavecchia 1,117,36
15 Loren Roberts 24 1,089,140
16 Vijay Singh 21 1,059,236
17 Nick Price 16 1,053,845
18 Stuart Appleby 23 1,003,356
19 Tom Lehman 21 960,584
20 Steve Jones 24 959,108
Here's the 2014 money leaders
1 Rory McIlroy 17 8,280,096
2 Bubba Watson 21 6,336,978
3 Jim Furyk 21 5,987,395
4 Jimmy Walker 27 5,787,016
5 Sergio Garcia 16 4,939,606
6 Chris Kirk 28 4,854,777
7 Billy Horschel 27 4,814,787
8 Rickie Fowler 26 4,806,117
9 Matt Kuchar 24 4,695,515
10 Martin Kaymer 19 4,532,537
11 Jordan Spieth 27 4,342,748
12 Dustin Johnson 17 4,249,180
13 Adam Scott 17 4,098,588
14 Patrick Reed 28 4,026,076
15 Justin Rose 19 3,926,768
16 Jason Day 15 3,789,574
17 Webb Simpson 25 3,539,601
18 Brendon Todd 29 3,396,747
19 Zach Johnson 26 3,353,417
20 Kevin Na 27 3,153,107
I used 14 because this year there haven't been enough tournaments to rule out a guy being on a hot streak.
I'm not sure I can agree with the thought that today's fields are better then 97. Golf was different then but the top guys in 97 were darn good at the time with there equipment and the top guys now are also good. I think the fields are closer then some people think.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 8:01 pm to Golfer
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quote:
Starting with a 40 on the first 9, then getting to 18 under is more impressive
Rewarding someone for starting off so poorly is better than actually starting off strong and continuing on?
it was the first time he'd played the masters as a pro ... the first time ... the other times he was a student at stanford ... he wasn't getting a bioengineering degree, but he still had crap he had to deal with for school (part of the reason he turned pro early) ... a 12 stroke victory is huge ... everything else about their victories evens out, except the winning margin ...
Posted on 4/13/15 at 9:55 pm to tiderider
I'm not an avid golfer but it was pointed out earlier that after 97 the Masters was changed to make it Tiger proof. I assume it still has the tiger proofing. So Spieth, on a more difficult course than Tiger 97, set records every day and led wire to wire. Has anyone in the history of the Masters ever been 20 strokes below par?
Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:43 am to roygu
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Has anyone in the history of the Masters ever been 20 strokes below par?
Speith got to 19.
This post was edited on 4/14/15 at 8:58 am
Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:47 am to COTiger
Pretty sure Speith didn't do it either
He got to 19
He got to 19
Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:48 am to Teddy Ruxpin
quote:
I'll say Tiger because he won by 12 strokes
merely proves the competition wasn't as good back then
Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:49 am to COTiger
quote:
Other than Spieth, no.
Spieth only hit 19 under. Only
In any event, its still Tiger, even after 5 pages.
This post was edited on 4/14/15 at 8:50 am
Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:57 am to Croacka
You're right and I did a piss poor job of editing. Trying to do too many things at the same time.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:08 am to Placebeaux
quote:
The course was a lot shorter then. How can people say the course was easier last week.
The difficulty in Augusta isn't the length.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:10 am to Patton
quote:
I'm too young to remeber 97
This explains a lot.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:48 am to Patton
according to Tiger it was 97! In Tiger's congratulatory comments after the Tourney he made sure to point out how his was more impressive...
The bigger issue here is whether we just witnessed the emergence of a new superstar in world golf. Time will only tell. Tiger's generation is moving into the Twilight and nobody has filled that void yet. Spieth is the lead dog now in USA golf.
The bigger issue here is whether we just witnessed the emergence of a new superstar in world golf. Time will only tell. Tiger's generation is moving into the Twilight and nobody has filled that void yet. Spieth is the lead dog now in USA golf.
This post was edited on 4/14/15 at 9:50 am
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