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re: More impressive Masters
Posted on 4/13/15 at 5:38 pm to Patton
Posted on 4/13/15 at 5:38 pm to Patton
Jack Nicklaus in 1965 when he destroyed a field with prime Gary Player and Arnold Palmer by nine strokes. The competition Tiger had at the 1997 Masters was weak. Look at some of the players he beat who were at the top of the leaderboard. A 47 year old Tom Kite, a 47 year old Tom Watson, and three guys named Tom Tolles, Constantino Rocca and Paul Stankowski were the rest of the players who finished in the top 5. Where was the all-time great in their prime making lots of birdies and putting pressure on Tiger? There wasn't any.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 5:41 pm to SPEEDY
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It speaks to how difficult the course was in 97 that Phil didnt even make the cut
BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 4/13/15 at 5:42 pm to Patton
Spieth clearly threw up a warning shot that he is out to take Rory's number one ranking and be this generation's golfer but damn...Tiger Woods at the 97 Masters? That and the 2000 US Open were masterpieces we'll be lucky to see equaled again in our lifetimes, particularly the 15 shot win at Pebble.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 5:47 pm to Bench McElroy
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Where was the all-time great in their prime making lots of birdies and putting pressure on Tiger? There wasn't any.
Do you really think it would have mattered????? At the time it was the biggest thing golf had seen in forever and it was very impressive... I would like to know how many future golfers picked up the game after the 97 Masters....
Posted on 4/13/15 at 5:51 pm to Bench McElroy
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three guys names constantino rocca
I wouldn't include him with the others. I'm pretty confident he almost won a british open, but I agree with the rest of what you're saying.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 5:53 pm to Patton
Jordan
Had the lead from day one
Course is harder now
Field is more competitive
Got to -19
Did it with the pressure of only having 3 stroke lead
The argument that Tiger won by 12 is irrelevant. Jordan cant control what the other golfers shoot.
Had the lead from day one
Course is harder now
Field is more competitive
Got to -19
Did it with the pressure of only having 3 stroke lead
The argument that Tiger won by 12 is irrelevant. Jordan cant control what the other golfers shoot.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 5:54 pm to Placebeaux
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The argument that Tiger won by 12 is irrelevant. Jordan cant control what the other golfers shoot.
No but it shows how difficult the course was playing that week.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 5:55 pm to PoppaD
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s Tigers win will be viewed like I said as a cultural shift that in many ways launched golf around the globe.
Golf was worldwide WAY before Tiger Woods. How old are you people in this thread?
Posted on 4/13/15 at 5:56 pm to Tiger Ryno
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Tiger winning by 12 had more to do with the poor quality of the field.
Multi Major winners that played in the 1997 Masters, (not including old fricks like Nicklaus or Palmer)
Tom Watson - 8 Majors
Nick Faldo - 6 Majors
Phil Mickelson - 5 Majors
Seve Ballesteros - 5 Majors
Ernie Els - 4 Majors
Vijay Singh - 3 Majors
Payne Stewart - 3 Majors
Nick Price - 3 Majors
Ben Crenshaw - 2 Majors
Bernhard Langer - 2 Majors
Jose Maria Olazabal - 2 Majors
Mark O'Meara - 2 Majors
Lee Janzen - 2 Majors
Yes, Tom Watson was 47 years old, but fat Phil is 44 years old now. Hell, a 59 year old Watson almost won the Open a few years ago. So don't give me that crap that the field is deeper and the players are better now. If that was the case, then no way in hell would a 59 year old golfer be able to take a major into a playoff with a great chance to win it.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 5:57 pm to dukke v
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It speaks to how difficult the course was in 97 that Phil didnt even make the cut
BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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three guys named Tom Tolles, Constantino Rocca and Paul Stankowski were the rest of the players who finished in the top 5.
Do you still believe the 97 field was stronger top to bottom than this years field?
Posted on 4/13/15 at 6:01 pm to SPEEDY
One thing you're leaving out here is how much better shape people are in now and how much longer their careers can last because of all we've learned in health and fitness in the last 10-15 years. When you turned 45 in the late 90s your career was pretty much done for the most part. That isn't the case any more.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 6:01 pm to Patton
Wire to wire to tie course record >>> course record.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 6:05 pm to Golfer
Setting the course record when only 8 players break par>>>>> then setting the record when 32 break par
Posted on 4/13/15 at 6:12 pm to lsupride87
These guys claiming Speith's Masters was more impressive than Tiger's 97 are nuts. And I can't stand Tiger. Tiger lapped the entire field. This week the course obviously played softer than most years. Two people tied at -14, which would have won 73 of 79 previous Masters. What was Tiger's lead after three rounds, 9? Speith led by 4. And two more were only 5 behind.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 6:15 pm to lsupride87
Wire to wire is more impressive for someone at 21 and winning their first major IMO.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 6:16 pm to COTiger
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Do you still believe the 97 field was stronger top to bottom than this years field?
But the course was...............
Posted on 4/13/15 at 6:17 pm to Choupique19
How long would 97 Tiger be in today's game?
Posted on 4/13/15 at 6:19 pm to Golfer
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Wire to wire is more impressive for someone at 21 and winning their first major IMO.
Starting with a 40 on the first 9, then getting to 18 under is more impressive
Posted on 4/13/15 at 6:21 pm to dukke v
Then we will just have to agree to disagree.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 6:22 pm to Choupique19
Jordan.. and it isn't even close..
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