re: Just Watched "Happy Valley" on Netflix

Yeah it actually claims they weren't really friends at all and were at odds often.

No matter how stupid the NCAA was (and is), they're not the ones that sheltered a child molester in their program for 30 years.

Penn State and Joe Paterno did.

So frick Penn State. And burn in hell, Joe Paterno.

Before I come to a final conclusion on whether or not PSU was treated fairly I need to know if Sandusky was the only child predator that Joe Paterno set up in the PSU Athletic Dept to rape little boys or did he facilitate more of these sickos?

Bonus Question - Was there a Lesbian rape factory that ole Joe created to insure compliance with Title IX?

So he protected his non friend from child rape allegations to make sure it wouldn't mess up his football program. Poor old fella got such a raw deal.

I had just watched the documentary today as well.

On one side, I see a great coach who did so much for a university and the pretty gutwrenching downfall.

On the other side I see multiple people who had direct knowledge of this happening and did the very bare mininum of reporting to the corrrect people to put a stop to it. which led to a decabe more of abuse. I also saw a seriously crazy fanbase.

In the end, the pain of the university, fanbase and coaching staff do not outweigh the lives that are ruined by the trauma endured on PSU's campus by a football coach. All of which could have been stopped had Petrino and the other administration done more. Punishment iss deserved and shutting down the football program would not have been too harsh either.

Paterno did what he was expected to do. He reported it. Did he do enough? That's a moral judgement you have to make.

Sandusky was tenured, Paterno had no control who had access. It's like that at every school, tenured pos get access someplace they shouldn't. Remember a university is a public place.

The NCAA went too far, they knew it. Their job is to regulate athletics and academics. Not be administering penalties for crimes.

Baylor wasn't punished for teammates killing each other. They were punished for scholarship violations. UK wasn't punished for mail fraud, but for sending money to a recruit and taking tests for recruits.

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goldenbadger and ole yeller sympathize with pedophiles...WOW!

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no one has said anything close to that. gtfo tarding

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Paterno did what he was expected to do. He reported it. Did he do enough? That's a moral judgement you have to make.

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There is a serious problem if anyone thinks there is a judgement to be made. To be told that someone you work with closely every day was having sex with a little boy in the shower, every person with knowledge of it should be held accountable. "Doing my job" is not enough when there is extremely serious criminal activity occurring in your department with your knowledge. This is why I am fine with how harsh the NCAA was initially on them. It showed that the administration "protected" (even if that was by no action) the football program thus the football program deserved punishment.

As great of a coach he was, he could have helped save many kids from absoulte trauma and he didn't . Many things are more important than football.


ETA: What you said with what I am trying to explain is exactly why they should hvae been nailed to the wail. It was the football and school administration that failed to a serious degree.

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The NCAA went too far, they knew it. Their job is to regulate athletics and academics. Not be administering penalties for crimes. Baylor wasn't punished for teammates killing each other. They were punished for scholarship violations. UK wasn't punished for mail fraud, but for sending money to a recruit and taking tests for recruits.

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All these examples show them hitting the schools for the failure of the football programs. Not the criminal behaviour of the players that the program had no knowledge of or had anything to do with.

You're forgetting 1 big thing. Paterno didn't see anything. It was reported to him by McQueary. McQueary should have reported it immediately, not 12 to 24 hours later. I'm not the morality police. As a mandated reporter though I'm required to report anything. I'm not sure Paterno was, thereby common sense says yes do something. But if you're wrong and ruined a mans life for something you heard from someone who thought he saw. It's trickier than you think. We have luxury of knowing some of the facts after.

What jurisdiction does the NCAA have over a tenured employee that is doing nothing that violates NCAA regulations? That is why I stated the examples I did.