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Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:31 pm
It's clear that Penn State was made an example of over Sandusky and the media was partially at fault.
"Society likes to destroy what they think is better than they are." - Mrs. Paterno
Mark Emmeret himself said of the penalties, "Our goal is not to be just punitive but to make sure the university establishes an athletic culture and daily mindset in which football will never again be placed ahead of educating, nurturing and protecting young people." But what does he do with the current UNC problems that has clearly established a culture of placing athletics before education… NOTHING.
"There is a reverence for football in America. Period." It's clear Penn State was a target.
The NCAA promotes and profits off of athletics and must cease promoting football, all other sports and making billions of dollars off of if they want to be respected as an institution that places education ahead of athletics.
Penn State had, at the time, a 87% graduation rate, which was tied with Stanford for the highest in all of the NCAA… If you think athletics was placed before education at this institution you're just another pawn to the media.
"This is how we deal with things in America, we find the very sensational story and then we try and create a shaming spectacle to allow culture to move on. Its a way to avoid doing something about it."
If we could take a poll the NCAA's approval rating it should be lower than Congress'.. they are a joke.. and anyone that thinks that Penn State's culture of reverence towards their football program was any different than any other large institution and their athletic programs was any different is lying to themselves.
Joe can never get his day in court. No person alive knows if he is a liar or not. Where is his benefit of the doubt?
"You can't hold the people that didn't commit the crimes accountable" Jay Paterno
"Do we ever look back at someone who tried to erase history and say they did the right thing?" NO. Sensationalism can get the best of any of us.
Any sports fan with a Netlflix account should watch this documentary
"Society likes to destroy what they think is better than they are." - Mrs. Paterno
Mark Emmeret himself said of the penalties, "Our goal is not to be just punitive but to make sure the university establishes an athletic culture and daily mindset in which football will never again be placed ahead of educating, nurturing and protecting young people." But what does he do with the current UNC problems that has clearly established a culture of placing athletics before education… NOTHING.
"There is a reverence for football in America. Period." It's clear Penn State was a target.
The NCAA promotes and profits off of athletics and must cease promoting football, all other sports and making billions of dollars off of if they want to be respected as an institution that places education ahead of athletics.
Penn State had, at the time, a 87% graduation rate, which was tied with Stanford for the highest in all of the NCAA… If you think athletics was placed before education at this institution you're just another pawn to the media.
"This is how we deal with things in America, we find the very sensational story and then we try and create a shaming spectacle to allow culture to move on. Its a way to avoid doing something about it."
If we could take a poll the NCAA's approval rating it should be lower than Congress'.. they are a joke.. and anyone that thinks that Penn State's culture of reverence towards their football program was any different than any other large institution and their athletic programs was any different is lying to themselves.
Joe can never get his day in court. No person alive knows if he is a liar or not. Where is his benefit of the doubt?
"You can't hold the people that didn't commit the crimes accountable" Jay Paterno
"Do we ever look back at someone who tried to erase history and say they did the right thing?" NO. Sensationalism can get the best of any of us.
Any sports fan with a Netlflix account should watch this documentary
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:35 pm to goldenbadger08
Both of us will be down voted heavily,but i agree with all that and there's no doubt in my mind Paterno got a raw deal.
Great coach, great man.
Great coach, great man.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:37 pm to Sevendust912
Great coach and man that protected a pedofile so he could rape as he pleased 
Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:39 pm to goldenbadger08
quote:
placed ahead of educating, nurturing and protecting young people." But what does he do with the current UNC problems that has clearly established a culture of placing athletics before education… NOTHING.
fricking kids is worse that cheating on a test.
the sports penalties were ridiculous. I think the men involved are facing real penalties.
But also frick penn state. Their football program and university covered up for a child molester. and then they rioted when he was forced to resign.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:39 pm to goldenbadger08
Here's the thing: Joe had a chance to talk, but he didn't. The ball was in his court and he failed.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:40 pm to LSUSoulja08
I think it just comes down to whether you think the NCAA should be policing matters that don't have to do with competitive advantage.* I generally don't, but I'm not going to cry for a school that got hammered for protecting kiddie rape.
* I realize there is some argument that PSU did this to protect its program and thus there is a competition angle for the NCAA to get involved. I don't agree, I think this was mainly about GrandPa's reputation.
* I realize there is some argument that PSU did this to protect its program and thus there is a competition angle for the NCAA to get involved. I don't agree, I think this was mainly about GrandPa's reputation.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:40 pm to Sevendust912
Joe paterno got screwed. He is and always will be the greatest coach ever. That is why they went back and gave him the wins... they knew they overstepped their boundaries. What sandusky did was sick, but it wasnt some giant "cult" and protecting a molester. Sandusky was one person who used his name and power to get kids around him. He is being punished for that. It had nothing to do with football, none of the players had anything to do with that, paterno had nothing to do with it. In todays time any thing is blown up by the media and it thats all this was
Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:40 pm to goldenbadger08
You're just as bad as Sandusky and paterno
Sicko
Sicko
Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:40 pm to Sevendust912
No the kids who were raped and tortured at that insane place they call a university got a raw deal. Every single person who knew what was happening and didn't do everything under the sun to stop it deserve no less than death in my book.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:43 pm to Bunk Moreland
That athletic department allowed a man to frick children
Any punishments they received were too good for them
Any punishments they received were too good for them
Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:43 pm to oleyeller
Either troll or Pedo. Either way your opinion is so wrong of the facts that I am leaning towards you being a pedo you sicko.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:46 pm to SammyTiger
quote:We're not talking about the specific crime.. Emmert specifically cited putting athletics before academics which UNC clearly has done on multiple occasions.
fricking kids is worse that cheating on a test
Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:49 pm to goldenbadger08
academics and nurturing and protecting young people
the second part is specifically talking about not raping kids.
thats really what got them in trouble.
the child raping.
if i had to put a finger on it.
not so much about academics.
mostly the child raping and subsequent cover up by football staff, and administration.
the second part is specifically talking about not raping kids.
thats really what got them in trouble.
the child raping.
if i had to put a finger on it.
not so much about academics.
mostly the child raping and subsequent cover up by football staff, and administration.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:51 pm to SammyTiger
quote:Really? Then why did he specifically cite academics first and foremost?
not so much about academics.
Too many assumptions and guesses are being made, it's clear no body knows the full truth.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:52 pm to goldenbadger08
The problem with all of that is that there was an extremely vocal group of Penn State supporters who ardently defended the institution. The riots that happened, as well as the complicit nature of the State College community necessitated drastic action. In my mind, this program, more than any in the past, should have gotten the death penalty. It sucks for the players and coaches, but the NCAA should have killed that shite with fire.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:54 pm to goldenbadger08
quote:
Really? Then why did he specifically cite academics first and foremost?
Too many assumptions and guesses are being made, it's clear no body knows the full truth.
What academic fraud did they find?
did i miss that?
was Sandusky giving the football players calculus answers while diddling the kids?
Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:55 pm to Lou Pai
quote:With a graduation rate of 87% you really think Penn State was an institution that needed to be put in its place? Had this happened at Alabama and Nick Saban do you honestly believe as heavy sanctions would have been handed down? No way in hell.. It would have been a case of a lone wolf pedo and the institution would have been as much a victim.
as well as the complicit nature of the State College community necessitated drastic action.
quote:IDK I guess ask Emmert why he decided to penalize them on this basis. (Cough, that's my point, cough.)
What academic fraud did they find?
This post was edited on 6/9/15 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:57 pm to goldenbadger08
Ok so you're just trolling
Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:57 pm to goldenbadger08
quote:
IDK I guess ask Emmert why he decided to penalize them on this basis. (Cough, that's my point, cough.)
he didn't
thats the point you are taking one thing he said and ignoring literally everything else.
He punished them because everyone in charge committed a felony that involved children getting molested.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:59 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
he didn't
quote:Keep ignoring that...
Our goal is not to be just punitive but to make sure the university establishes an athletic culture and daily mindset in which football will never again be placed ahead of educating
This post was edited on 6/9/15 at 8:00 pm
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