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re: It's been 3 years, let's discuss the 2013 NFL Draft
Posted on 5/3/16 at 10:17 pm to 13SaintTiger
Posted on 5/3/16 at 10:17 pm to 13SaintTiger
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13SaintTiger
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I would never take a healthy Watkins over Snead
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Posted on 5/3/16 at 10:18 pm to TTsTowel
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How about posting the posts that happened later in the thread? Oh, I already did.
It's obvious that you were hinting that you would choose Willie Snead over Sammy Watkins at the end of the thread.
Nothing that happened later in the thread discounts my statement. I said it depends on the asking price and posted production numbers. Continue being an idiot though.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 10:20 pm to tigerpimpbot
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I would never take a healthy Watkins over Snead
this thread is about drafting, not free agency, so price wouldn't be an issue
ETA: I just noticed the bad sentence structure. I obviously meant I would take a healthy Watkins over Snead. Oh well, I'm not a bitch so I wont delete my posts like strongbackweakmind
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 5/3/16 at 10:21 pm to tigerpimpbot
This guy is just all over the place.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 10:23 pm to TTsTowel
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This guy is just all over the place.
Nah, you want me to be all over the place. It started with the stupid ATL comment.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 10:24 pm to 13SaintTiger
Well, you did say an 8-8 team was bottom of the barrel.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 10:24 pm to 13SaintTiger
Alright guys, Sammy didn't get drafted in 2013 so let's get back on topic here...how about them Jags in 2013...
Posted on 5/3/16 at 10:26 pm to TTsTowel
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Well, you did say an 8-8 team was bottom of the barrel.
No. There you go again, trying to force words and lie. I said ATL is a bottom of the barrel franchise, their 2015 record be damned.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 10:34 pm to 13SaintTiger
Their all-time record and all-time winning percentage are almost on par with New Orleans. Both incredibly shitty. Why is Atlanta bottom of the barrel and not New Orleans?
Posted on 5/3/16 at 10:37 pm to TTsTowel
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Why is Atlanta bottom of the barrel and not New Orleans?
This is just waaaaaaaay to easy.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 6:56 am to 13SaintTiger
Has to be one of the worst drafts of all time.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:04 am to TTsTowel
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It's obvious that you were hinting that you would choose Willie Snead over Sammy Watkins at the end of the thread.
Wow y'all are really reaching here. I think it was very obvious he was saying he would take Snead over Watkins, because the cost would not be worth what it would bring to the team.
I have to agree with him that having a top safety is far more valuable than a top WR. I do understand where y'all are coming from as far as the WR being "valued" more. Teams do pay more for top WR, but those teams typically don't do very well. I guess his point was the smarter pick would be Tyrann. But I agree the more likely pick would be Hopkins. NFL teams aren't always smart and teams that are picking at the top rarely are very smart.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:06 am to oncealurker
That might seriously be the worst top ten of all time in any sport. Jesus
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:13 am to vengeanceofrain
They actually declined jockels option hell be a free agent in 2017
They reluctantly picked up fishers at 11.9 million. He's an avg starter but won't ever sniff a pro bowl
They reluctantly picked up fishers at 11.9 million. He's an avg starter but won't ever sniff a pro bowl
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:58 am to oncealurker
Man the first round was shite
Posted on 5/4/16 at 9:00 am to ssgtiger
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Wow y'all are really reaching here. I think it was very obvious he was saying he would take Snead over Watkins, because the cost would not be worth what it would bring to the team.
I have to agree with him that having a top safety is far more valuable than a top WR. I do understand where y'all are coming from as far as the WR being "valued" more. Teams do pay more for top WR, but those teams typically don't do very well. I guess his point was the smarter pick would be Tyrann. But I agree the more likely pick would be Hopkins. NFL teams aren't always smart and teams that are picking at the top rarely are very smart.
Thanks, you are correct in your assumption about what I was saying. Watkins is clearly the better player, and if I had to choose between Snead and Watkins in a draft I would easily choose Watkins. Free agency is a different story because it all depends on what he's asking for and who I already have on the offensive side of the ball.
It all started when patton said
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Wr has more value than S
which is absolutely and utterly insane. Even at the lowest level of football, a team isn't riding the back of a wide receiver to a championship. Hell, their aren't many team leaders who are wide receivers. You can build around a safety, you cannot build around a wide receiver, and if you try you will surely fail.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 9:17 am to 13SaintTiger
Ed Reed is the greatest football player of all time, so comparing him to any WR isn't going to work.
Is Earl Thomas more valuable than a top tier WR? Schematically I think you can make the arguement that elite cover 1 FS are insanely important to a defense; ;however, there are ways to make sure the safety never gets involved (short passes, running a guy constantly on go routes, misdirection) where an elite WR almost certainly needs two defenders on him at all times.
Is Earl Thomas more valuable than a top tier WR? Schematically I think you can make the arguement that elite cover 1 FS are insanely important to a defense; ;however, there are ways to make sure the safety never gets involved (short passes, running a guy constantly on go routes, misdirection) where an elite WR almost certainly needs two defenders on him at all times.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 9:41 am to oncealurker
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Denver Broncos Montee Ball RB Wisconsin Big Ten
Hated the pick then and hate it even more now. I'd prefer to forget that entire draft. Sly Williams and Kayvon Webster are the only players that have even slightly contributed.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 9:42 am to Jcorye1
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however, there are ways to make sure the
Ed Reed is the greatest football player of all time, so comparing him to any WR isn't going to work.
I compared him to a top 5 wide receiver of all time
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safety never gets involved (short passes, running a guy constantly on go routes, misdirection)
Until that safety has to come plug in the gap and be the last hope on the defense.
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where an elite WR almost certainly needs two defenders on him at all times.
There aren't a lot of teams with an elite wide receiver, and usually the teams that have one rely on them so much that their offense is one dimensional. Out of the top 5 wide receivers last year, only one of the teams had post season success, 3 of the teams didn't even make it to the post season. Now that I look back, out of the top 10 wide receivers last year, only one of those teams had post season success.
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 9:46 am
Posted on 5/4/16 at 9:44 am to TTsTowel
That was a good thread. Anytime 13SaintTiger bashes another poster for being an idiot, you just have to bring that thread up.
Snead > Watkins
Snead > Watkins
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