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re: Inspired by LBJ Hype thread - Who has been the largest letdown?
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:09 pm to BilJ
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:09 pm to BilJ
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small? So as the #2 overall pick in the draft you would say you sort of expected to get an injury prone 3rd down back who occasionally returns punts?
yeah id call him a small let down. He is a big asset to the Saints. DC's still have to game plan for him.
he's played in 60 games and has scored 33 TDs. That's not all that bad.
It's not like he is so bad that the Saints have to cut him. He's lasted 5 years and they want him back still. Small letdown.
A lot of top 10 picks never do shite. Those guys are big letdowns
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:10 pm to BilJ
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small? So as the #2 overall pick in the draft you would say you sort of expected to get an injury prone 3rd down back who occasionally returns punts?
Lots of people questioned his ability to be a #1 RB. So comparisons to Gayle Sayers aside, that should show you right there that expectations for him weren't as high as people think they were.
He's averaged 4.0 YPC as a RB. That's definitely solid, especially in an offense that is pass-happy. He also is, at times, a solid returner. And no matter what, when he's in a game, defenses have to respect hiim because he definitely carries that threat to house it.
So yeah, I'd say that he's been somewhat of a letdown...but there's absolutely no reason he should be near the top of a list of "career letdowns."
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:10 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
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David Carr and Alex Smith can be added to this list.
they weren't really HYPED though. They were just best qb of the draft and happened to go #1. Same way that if Blaine Gabbert goes #1 this year, it's not like he's being dubbed the second coming.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:10 pm to Keys Open Doors
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he was only 18 or 19.
he was 17 until right before the draft
baby shaq and darko had that huge issue with the international age rules before their draft
frick, i know too much about darko
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:12 pm to LSU Fan 90812
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Bush was widely regarded to be one of the best RB prospects of the last 20 years when he came out. He was a heisman winner and a can't miss. His HYPE was out of this world.
And he's gone from that to NEVER being the feature back in his own offense. And never cracking 1000 yards.
yeah i had to do a couple depos fromt eh time this thread started until now, but i wanted to throw out a bush vs JR comparison
both were top 2 picks
JR didn't have the hype of a bush, and his expectations were much lower
Bush has, however, produced some, unlike JR
HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THAT shite?
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:13 pm to LSU Fan 90812
quote:the asian voting block helped that a lot
He's been a multi time All Star
quote:he has made 2nd team twice and 3rd team three times in his 11-year NBA career
and has been All NBA when he's healthy
i'm saying that considering that he was supposed to be a revolutionary type of players with his size and agility, he has been a letdown
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:13 pm to Keys Open Doors
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As mentioned in the earlier thread, Sebastian Telfair. I still think Kwame was a bad draft choice at number 1 overall. A guy who averaged 20 points per game in the GA public school league while being 6'11" is not exactly awe-inspiring.
My roommate played ball with him in High School. Said it wasn't uncommon for Kwame not to be the best player on the court and would frequently disappear in games. Drafted on pure freakshow size alone, not talent.
ETA: He could go on and on about Kwame, and I take his word for it.
This post was edited on 3/23/11 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:14 pm to LSU Fan 90812
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How about Maurice Clarett?
never an elite prospect, even though ESPN's Scouts Inc had him and BMW rated like 98 and 99/100 after they treid to come out early
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:17 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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Drafted on pure freakshow size alone, not talent.
kwame didn't have freakshow size
he had good athleticism for his size
sometimes they work out. sometimes they don't
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:17 pm to CocomoLSU
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Lots of people questioned his ability to be a #1 RB.
this is hindsight talking.
People called Reggie the best college back to come out since Barry Sanders when he was drafted. He was rated a 99 on ESPN's scouting team.
ESPN- A prospect with a grade of 99 or 100 is rare.
2006 Draft Profile
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Overview:
Reggie Bush is a phenomenal player with special attributes rarely seen. Analysts have compared Bush as the one of the best all around football players to come out of college since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders. Although only a junior, Bush has the experience, ability, and knowledge to be a starter at the next level and make a firm impact in no time. Will go in the top three picks barring something crazy.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:19 pm to LSU Fan 90812
Reggie Bush hasn't been healthy.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:19 pm to LSU Fan 90812
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Lots of people questioned his ability to be a #1 RB.
i know i'm quoting a quote, but
"lots of people" = SFP and Powerman
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
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kwame didn't have freakshow size he had good athleticism for his size sometimes they work out. sometimes they don't
I didn't say athleticism because I think its safe to say thats assumed when you are being picked #1 by the NBA. As I mentioned, my roommate could give you specifics about how he played, considering he played on the court with him. Anyways, the coolest thing about that is not that he got to play with Kwame, but that he got to play in front of Michael Jordan.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:20 pm to swagsurfin7
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Reggie Bush hasn't been healthy.
a lot of 200 lb primary backs get hurt, too
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
still on the D'Brick Bandwagon
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:21 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
kwame was just timid and had small hands
kwame and darko might be 2 completely different players had they not had to deal with larry brown and jordan
and both have somewhat emerged this year as solid big men, when they were given their first chance
kwame and darko might be 2 completely different players had they not had to deal with larry brown and jordan
and both have somewhat emerged this year as solid big men, when they were given their first chance
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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never an elite prospect, even though ESPN's Scouts Inc had him and BMW rated like 98 and 99/100 after they treid to come out early
I think you guys are missing the point. This is about HYPE.
You want some proof of some crazy Clarett hype? Try this.
This post was edited on 3/23/11 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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and both have somewhat emerged this year as solid big men, when they were given their first chance
A lot can happen in 10 years.
ETA: Not making fun of you, but of course things can change after a very long time. These observations were made about his potential impact in the league as a #1 pick coming out of HS.
This post was edited on 3/23/11 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:23 pm to Rouge
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he has made 2nd team twice and 3rd team three times in his 11-year NBA career
i'm saying that considering that he was supposed to be a revolutionary type of players with his size and agility, he has been a letdown
he has been when he's actually played. making all NBA is no slouch.
Carmelo has made less All NBA teams than yao.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:24 pm to Rouge
i think u mean winston justice
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