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re: How many steps does it take to make "the process" complete?

Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:45 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:45 pm to
Yea, the play is dead the moment the plane is broken. Big difference compared to today.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:45 pm to
How about the ref today telling you that you are wrong. How about the rulebook saying you are wrong? Do those work?
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:45 pm to
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Yea, the play is dead the moment the plane is broken. Big difference compared to today.
Wrong again You are on a roll
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:46 pm to
Johnson didn't through the ground. He never had possession. That was tough.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:46 pm to
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That is nothing like this. He clearly has both hands around the ball and breaks the plane with the ball never touching the ground Got anything better?



The ball hits the ground before he "completes the catch", therefore it must be incomplete according to you. The fact that he crossed the goal line is irrelevant, that doesn't apply when a catch hasn't been completed yet.

It was a catch specifically because he extended the ball.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:46 pm to
That's not wrong. Possession established, plane broken, play over.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:47 pm to
But the Lnch rulebook says it is dead once it crosses the goaline I thought?
This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 11:48 pm
Posted by JG77056
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:47 pm to
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How about the ref today telling you that you are wrong.


So what you're saying is the ref's word is golden? Because he also told you this was an incomplete pass but you don't seem to be able to accept it.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:47 pm to
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The problem is it was ruled a catch on the field, meaning they would need conclusive evidence that he did not intend to extend the ball.
I got you. Thats the general rule for reviews but you can see when those same standards are applied to a portion of the play itself (intent must be conclusive) it presents a logical problem. It is conclusive that we are inconclusive on the intent therefore a football move is inconclusive, conclusively.
This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 11:49 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:47 pm to
Wrong. You know the difference, but your homer brain won't let you admit it. Yall have fun telling each other how right yall are.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:48 pm to
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That's not wrong. Possession established, plane broken, play over.


Now I know you're trolling
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:48 pm to
I accept that it may have been incomplete. I find it hilarious though that Lnch makes up rules
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:49 pm to
He's made up a few here
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:49 pm to
Dude I am a saints homer. I also just like when people actually know the actual rules
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:50 pm to
Please tell me what other possible result comes from a player breaking the plane in possession of the ball.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:52 pm to
If Dez breaks the plane today while falling and doesn't extend the ball it is incomplete. The plane breaking bad nothing to do with it
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:53 pm to
Yea, because he didn't possess the ball. Just like Calvin Johnson. And unlike Lance Moore
This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 11:54 pm
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:53 pm to
You honestly think he didn't have control of the ball before hitting the ground?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:54 pm to
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Please tell me what other possible result comes from a player breaking the plane in possession of the ball.



If a player jumps up to catch a ball while in the endzone, then the ball dislodges when he hits the ground it is not a td.

During that play the player will have had possession but not completed the catch.

During that play the ball would have broken the plane.

The result however would be not TD.

This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 11:54 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:55 pm to
Not through the ground, which matters for this particular play. Falling to the ground is not a football move, so he had to possess the ball. Do you have a better example than Lance Moore?
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