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re: How many steps does it take to make "the process" complete?

Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:56 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:56 pm to
Yeh but if he falls over the plane he is good right?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:56 pm to
That example the receiver doednt establish possession according to the rules. Try again.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:56 pm to
holy shite
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:57 pm to
Lnch, how many yards does it take to get a first down? I want to see if you know this rule
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:57 pm to
Not if he fails to maintain possession and the ball hits the ground.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:58 pm to
Deflect more.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:59 pm to
Holy shite what? He didn't establish possession, hence incomplete. If he had possession it's a td.

For your example, not Dez. Before someone tries to spin that around.
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 12:00 am
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:00 am to
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Not if he fails to maintain possession and the ball hits the ground.



Wait, you told me a guy doesn't have possession at any time if he catches a ball and then let's go when he hits the ground.

How can I "maintain" something that is impossible to occur according to you?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:02 am to
That's not what I saud actually. You can try and spin it all you want. There is no other result from a player possessing the ball and breaking the plane. Your example didn't have that, so it was pointless.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:02 am to
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spin


I can't spin the definitions of words
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:03 am to
Tell me another possible result of a player possessing the ball and breaking the plane.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:10 am to
I'll bullet point it out again but I fear it's for naught.

Again:

1) Player catches ball in the endzone while in the air.
2) BY RULE "he must maintain possession through the ground.

Now, what does this rule imply?
It implies that a player has possession, BUT, possession can cease if he doesn't keep it through the ground. That is what the word "maintain" means. It means he must maintain the possession he has at that moment he is in the air.

3) Player hits the ground in the endzone and ball dislodges.

At this point, the player HAD possession but it was not maintained

4) Therefore, when he caught the ball while in the air he had 1) possession and 2) the ball had crossed the plane. YET it is not a dead play ruled as a TD.

I don't see how you can't follow this by your own words or I'm getting trolled which is fine. I'm bored anyways

This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 12:13 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:14 am to
So the never had possession by rule? Got it.

Lance Moore made a clear football move and hit the ground in case you didn't see it. So he possessed the ball while breaking the plane. Your example, the receiver never has established possession. You've got to be joking with this shite.
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 12:15 am
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:15 am to
Troll on brother
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:17 am to
You're yhe one saying a receiver that doesn't possess the ball according to the rules is relevant to what I asked you.

I'll ask one last time so you can give the correct answer hopefully. Is there any result other than scoring when a player in possession of the ball according to the rules breaks the plane?
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:18 am to
Box, not sure if it is parsing words or not, but refs often say 'never had possession' or 'did not maintain'.

Not sure on the rulebook, but there is a big difference.
Posted by unbeWEAVEable
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 6:36 am to
quote:

He has to make a football move. Diving towards the endzone is not a football move.


At first I was like ...

quote:

You don't want to reach the endzone in football.


...Then I was like
Posted by gameovergt
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 7:21 am to
in my opinion it appeared to be a catch. But my wife is a Lions fan so F the Boys! KARMA
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