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re: How many steps does it take to make "the process" complete?
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:53 pm to LNCHBOX
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:53 pm to LNCHBOX
Lynch you are the ignorant one. Extending the ball towards the goal line is a football move. To call others wrong when it is simply a subjective judgement is the definition of ignorance
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:54 pm to LNCHBOX
The problem, for the thousandth time, is that the rule people keep referencing should not have been applied to this play. The rule is applied t plays in which NO FOOTBALL MOVE WAS MADE prior to the ball carrier going to the ground. Dez Bryant DID make a move specifically outlined in the rulebook as a "football move" (extending the ball towards the goal line). It is clearly outlined in the rule book, which is why I couldn't care less if the ref says something to the contrary. If the ref doesn't agree, he is wrong per the rule book and everyone covering for him is wrong per the rule book.
As soon as a player makes a football move, he has completed the catch and because he was contacted by the defender on the way down he should have been ruled down at the one yard line, first and goal Dallas.
As soon as a player makes a football move, he has completed the catch and because he was contacted by the defender on the way down he should have been ruled down at the one yard line, first and goal Dallas.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:55 pm to lsupride87
You do have to control it through the ground when you go up to get the ball. That's not an assumption, it's a fact. Therefore, because Dez didn't maintain control when the ball hit the ground, it is correctly ruled incomplete. How you still don't get this is amazing.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:56 pm to Roger Klarvin
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The problem, for the thousandth time, is that the rule people keep referencing should not have been applied to this play.
Wrong. You go up to get the ball, you then must maintain possessin through the ground. You're making stuff up to help your team, like most fans would.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:56 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:It is hilarious how you are 100% wrong on the rule
You do have to control it through the ground when you go up to get the ball. That's not an assumption, it's a fact. Therefore, because Dez didn't maintain control when the ball hit the ground, it is correctly ruled incomplete. How you still don't get this is amazing.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:56 pm to lsupride87
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During the game, the red along with 90% of this board assumed you had to control the ball through the ground no matter what. Hence his explanation during the game. After the game he realized that is 100% so he comes up with a long winded explanation about a common act of the game. There is no way in the booth he would have overturned it if he realized that
The NFL transcript shows the ref knew the rule and just decided Bryant didn't make a football move. He arbitrarily said that the lunge didn't count because Bryant didn't mean to do it.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:59 pm to fightin tigers
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I'm speaking of the football move.
No one doubts the ground knocked the ball out. It is on film.
Football move is irrelevant once Bryant went up and went down to the ground. He had to possess through the ground. He didn't. End of story.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:59 pm to LNCHBOX
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Wrong. You go up to get the ball, you then must maintain possessin through the ground.
If you don't make a football move first.
You simply have a misunderstanding of the rule. Nowhere in the rule book does the act of falling come into play. However, the rule book does specifically say that a football move automatically completes the catch. No "if the player goes up for it and is falling" exception.
Moreover, there is a long list of precedent calls that have been posted today where similar plays were ruled catches due to a football move despite the ball coming loose.
You are simply wrong, attempting to puts criteria into the rules which are not there.
Finally, the ref himself included that part of the ruling was first determining if a football move was made. That alone proves me right.
This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:59 pm to Roger Klarvin
Given the ruling on the field.. pathetic call IMO.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:59 pm to lsupride87
Except I'm not. How drunk are you?
Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:01 pm to Roger Klarvin
Tell yourself whatever you have to. It was an incomplete pass and was ruled correctly.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:02 pm to LNCHBOX
Lynch you are 110% wrong on the rule. You do not have to hold onto the ball after hitting the ground if a football move has already been made. You are flat out wrong on the rule
Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:03 pm to LNCHBOX
The last resort of the defeated. "Oh yeah, well I'm right and you are melting".
You have nothing, nothing but a flawed personal understanding of the rules.
You have nothing, nothing but a flawed personal understanding of the rules.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:04 pm to Roger Klarvin
It very well may have been incomplete, but I am 100% certain Lynch doesn't knkw the actual rule
Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:06 pm to Roger Klarvin
And you have nothing but a bleeding vagina. Cry some more, perhaps yall can make it to Seattle.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:06 pm to LNCHBOX
Lynch you still don't know the rule. Yelling at roger won't help
Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:07 pm to lsupride87
I understand it better than you type my name.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:09 pm to lsupride87
He's one of those fans who bases their understanding of the rules on announcer clichés.
Every game, the play by play or color guy says something like "the receiver must possess the ball to the ground" indiscriminately and without ever clarifying the specifics. Thus, most fans think that that is universal for all catches in which a player goes to the ground.
The "football move" is usually invoked when a ball is dislodged by a defender and is in comparison to what would have constituted a fumble. it is rarely brought up in cases like this, mostly because not any players are athletic enough to make a football move in the same motion of coming down like Dez did.
The rule very clearly states however that all debate about a catch is over once a football move has been made, even when a player is going to the ground.
Every game, the play by play or color guy says something like "the receiver must possess the ball to the ground" indiscriminately and without ever clarifying the specifics. Thus, most fans think that that is universal for all catches in which a player goes to the ground.
The "football move" is usually invoked when a ball is dislodged by a defender and is in comparison to what would have constituted a fumble. it is rarely brought up in cases like this, mostly because not any players are athletic enough to make a football move in the same motion of coming down like Dez did.
The rule very clearly states however that all debate about a catch is over once a football move has been made, even when a player is going to the ground.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:11 pm to Roger Klarvin
Like I said it may have been an incomplete pass. But his reasoning for it is 100% not based on an actual football rule
Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:12 pm to Roger Klarvin
Your long paragraphs are never going to change the call, or its correctness. No football move was made, no possession through the ground, no catch, lots of Roger tears.
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