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re: Greatest College Football Program Builder of All-Time

Posted on 10/30/14 at 4:42 pm to
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 4:42 pm to
Did Bear build aTm?

I guess we should ask if they have a program first.......
Posted by stevo1905
Member since Nov 2010
2082 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 4:48 pm to
Butch Davis
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11087 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 4:51 pm to
Saban. Turned LSU and Bama around in no time. I'm not informed enough to know what Michigan States situation was like. I'm convinced he could show up at New Mexico State and have them in the top 25 in 3 years.
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
13308 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:30 pm to
Urban for the years he was at the programs.
Posted by Fat Harry
70115
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:41 pm to
Mack Brown with Tulane, UNC, and Texas?
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14054 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:43 pm to
Snyder

What he's done and continues to do at KST. They showed the other day, that he has 20++ walk ons on the 2 deep depth chart, and few of them have made all conference.

Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6088 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

Bill Snyder should be somewhere high on the list.

#1
Horrible for years.
He arrives - they're nationally relevant.
The second he leaves - mediocre
Comes back - relevant again.
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30164 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

Mack Brown with Tulane, UNC, and Texas?


Surprised this took until page 2.

He did a pretty good job letting Texas fall apart, though.
Posted by Backinthe615
Member since Nov 2011
6871 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:52 pm to
If we're talking builders - as in lifting a program out the dregs into contention, then Snyder has to be up there.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41180 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

Mack Brown with Tulane, UNC, and Texas?


He never had a winning season @Tulane
In 10 years @UNC only had two seasons with less than 3 losses
Texas was already national program


My top 3 would be
Bobby Bowden
Howard Schnellenberger
Hayden Fry
Posted by NOTORlOUSD
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
5051 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:54 pm to
Lane Kiffin?
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30164 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:58 pm to
Gary Patterson looking to do his part as well... with a little help from some other guy at the very start.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6088 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 6:03 pm to
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He never had a winning season @Tulane
In 10 years @UNC only had two seasons with less than 3 losses
Texas was already national program

He also had 3 10 loss seasons.

Schnellenberger basically single-handedly stopped Metro Conference football from starting.
Posted by Backinthe615
Member since Nov 2011
6871 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 6:08 pm to
I really think if he hadn't busted a spring, Jim Leavitt could've been on this list. Well, maybe this list in the future. If USF had kept that mojo, they'd probably be in the P5 already.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139840 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 6:20 pm to
I despise Schnellenburger for his 1 year at OU. What he did there was worthy of treason.

But Hayden Fry, Paterno, Snyder, and Bowden get my votes.

Glen Mason Jackie Sherrill and George Pearles get honorable mentions

I think what Arnsparger did at LSU was pretty damn good also.
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 6:31 pm
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7510 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 6:37 pm to
Knute Rockne... Made Notre Dame a powerhouse for decades and still relevant today, and could reasonably be given more credit than anyone for why we care about college football to this very day.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 6:40 pm to
H.S. shouldn't have even won a national title. The last team to beat 3 stright top ten teams, before Mississippi St. did it this year was Auburn in 1983, they played like 6 top ten teams that year plus number 15 Alabama.

Anyways, before I named the best I wanted to make my point.


Bear Bryant is the easy, EASY choice here. He stayed at Maryland only one year, left because of the President, but Maryland won the National title 5 or 6 years later. I can't give him much credit here, but I clearly think Bear changed the culture.

Bear Bryant won an SEC title at Kentucky, he also went 10-1 and beat the National Champion Oklahoma Sooners in the 1950 Sugar Bowl 13-7. Both teams finished 10-1, but the titles were decided before the bowl games then.


KENTUCKY! !!!


Texas AM was a horrible team when Bear arrived and he turned them into National Title contenders in a few years.

Bama went 1-10 in 1957 with lile 4 or 5 wins in the three prior seasons. To boot, LSU, Ole Miss and Auburn were national power houses when Bear arrived. Within 4 years Bear won his first of 6 National Titles at Bama in a 22 year span, and that doesn't count the undefeated untied team of 1966 or the 1977 team that got shafted by Notre Dame.


There is NO COMPARISON to Bear as far as turnaround masters go.
Posted by Sellecks Moustache
NC
Member since Jun 2014
5994 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 6:51 pm to
Wallace Wade also built Duke's football program, before it fell apart. Then Spurrier rebuilt. Then it fell apart again, and now Coach Cut rebuilt it again.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6088 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 6:53 pm to
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1977 team that got shafted by Notre Dame

Well, Alabama shafted USC the next year.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 6:55 pm to
quote:

He stayed at Maryland only one year, left because of the President, but Maryland won the National title 5 or 6 years later. I can't give him much credit here, but I clearly think Bear changed the culture.


god you're delusional
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