re: Face it Federer is the GOAT

Oh, so making just making the Finals is good enough in tennis. Basketball is different I guess

You discount Agassi yet then include people just like him?

The hardest thing about winning a Grand Slam was the schedule. The biggest help for people was moving Australian to January. To be honest I am surprised nobody has done it since Laver.

He was making Qtrs and higher before the Wimbledon win

I know he has at least 2 us open Semis in the 80's and was playing in Year end tournament in 88-90

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Actually I think it's 14-23, 9-3 in majors. But it's 13-2 Rafa on clay 5-0 at the French. Rafa easily the best clay court player ever,

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Not only is Rafa totally suspect with the Spanish doping program...

But he's 4 years younger than Fed. When they came into this rivalry, Fed had already dominated tennis for a decade.

So some younger guy comes along and starts winning - no surprise he would have a better head to head record.

People act like they came into tennis at the same time.

Roger won his first Wimbledon in 2003.

Rafa won his first in 2008.

You can't go head-to-head as some be all and end all - that's fricking ridiculous.

Who knows how much Roger would have dominated Rafa and for how long if Rafa was around when Fed was dominating.

You can't show up late to the party and then claim you're the best when you aren't playing your opponent at his youthful best.

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Rafa was the best at his peak. Federer has the better career due to better health.

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I know this is two years old, but it's idiotic. Rafa never consistently dominated the entire field across all surfaces the way that Fed did. You can make an argument that peak Novak was as dominant, but his peak was much shorter

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Federer 17 Grand Slams
(7 Wimbledon;
5 US Open;
4 Australian Open;
*****1 French Open*****)
8 Runners-up

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FIFY

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Nadal won 4. Major titles by the age which Fed won his first

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All French Opens. As I said no one has been better on a single surface than Nadal on Clay. But then again what difference does age at first major make?

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So Nadal fans should discount anything before 2008

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This doesn't make any sense, most of Nadals majors where 2008 on. What he's saying is Nadal is 5 years younger, so it's not surprising that a 22-27 y/o was beating a 26-30 y/o.

There are 4 GOATs to me, if that makes sense: Rod Laver, Jimmy Connors, John McEnroe, and Roger Federer. Thing that distinguishes them from Roger is they were better doubles players. All 4 were about as unstoppable as they come ever.

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Rod Laver, Jimmy Connors, John McEnroe, and Roger Federer.

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Thanks for making my point. Nothing against your first three but without the advantages of playing from the left side those three are all lesser players.