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re: Does the Receiver make the QB, or the QB make the receiver?
Posted on 3/13/13 at 10:57 am to Jumbeauxlaya
Posted on 3/13/13 at 10:57 am to Jumbeauxlaya
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Wait wait wait, the only way a receiver gets better over time is if his QB gets better?
no, who said that?
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He can't practice, try harder, learn more or get in better shape?
sure, is that what happened with White? I don't know, I don't follow the Falcons.
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Posted on 3/13/13 at 10:58 am to BeaverPRO
Yes, overall a great QB makes a receiver better. A great QB with average WR will win more games and put up better numbers and an average QB with great receivers.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 11:08 am to H-Town Tiger
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no, who said that?
You said his numbers have got better since Ryan got there, I basically said most receivers numbers tend to go up over time.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 11:15 am to BeaverPRO
Julio Jones is having a better pro career than AJ Green for one reason...his QB.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 11:25 am to BeaverPRO
this would turn into a thread about the falcons.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 11:26 am to KG5989
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A great QB can make an average WR great, while a great WR can make an average QB look great.
If you have a shitty QB though, a great WR won't make a difference.
Pretty much this. A QB is more important in the grand scheme of things so people give the QB credit, but it definitely goes both ways.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 11:33 am to TigerTalker142
How does a QB's TE and WR (and Head Coach) make the Hall Of Fame but he get's left out?
Posted on 3/13/13 at 11:38 am to Jumbeauxlaya
His first season fully starting was with Ryan I'm pretty sure an it was obvious the 2 years prior he would be really good. Correlation without causation as both really helped each other develop but neither really caused anything.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 11:39 am to BeaverPRO
WRs who make plays after the catch can make just about any average QB look good
Posted on 3/13/13 at 11:42 am to BeaverPRO
A receiver can't be top notch without at least a competent QB (see Larry Fitzgerald post Warner)
But a QB without options to throw to is very limited
So both answers are half wrong
But a QB without options to throw to is very limited
So both answers are half wrong
Posted on 3/13/13 at 11:46 am to BeaverPRO
Randy Moss made Matt Cassell look like a pro bowler. But I think it can go both ways.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 11:51 am to molsusports
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A receiver can't be top notch without at least a competent QB (see Larry Fitzgerald post Warner)
But a QB without options to throw to is very limited
So both answers are half wrong
So, who is the Larry Fitzgerald of NFL QBs?
Posted on 3/13/13 at 11:52 am to Jumbeauxlaya
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You said his numbers have got better since Ryan got there
saying his numbers got better does not equal saying that's the only way a WR can get better.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 11:55 am to 6nmylifetime
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How does a QB's TE and WR (and Head Coach) make the Hall Of Fame but he get's left out?
Because he wasn't Hall worthy
What does that have to do with this discussion?
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Randy Moss made Matt Cassell look like a pro bowler.
Not really a pro bowl season.
08 Matt Cassel 327 516 63.4 3,693 7.16 21 11
This post was edited on 3/13/13 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 3/13/13 at 11:57 am to BeaverPRO
I really say it depends.
Brady and Peyton make their receivers better, but Calvin Johnson/Jones and White make Stafford and Ryan better in my opinion.
Brady and Peyton make their receivers better, but Calvin Johnson/Jones and White make Stafford and Ryan better in my opinion.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 11:58 am to BeaverPRO
no OJ Mcduffie made Dan Marino
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:00 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:Peyton Manning
So, who is the Larry Fitzgerald of NFL QBs?
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:01 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Peyton Manning
his WR's put up good numbers, the Az QB's had lousy numbers
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:03 pm to BeaverPRO
The QB makes the WR - exhibit A: Deion Branch.
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