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re: Can someone explain the LHSAA situation to me?
Posted on 6/9/16 at 7:17 pm to TROLA
Posted on 6/9/16 at 7:17 pm to TROLA
It seems to be regardless of what makes sense or not, according to the article in The Advocate this morning, quoting several private school coaches off the record, there is going to be a split now. As one put it, "we are back to where we were in Jan. & that was to split". Kids lose, adults win.
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Posted on 6/9/16 at 7:25 pm to TROLA
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There is no logical reason for rural 150 student schools to have the same influence as a 1500 student consilidated school..
How big is a school supposed to be before they're allowed to have a voice or vote? Or do they just sit in a corner with a muzzle until they're told to speak by the large school overlords?
Posted on 6/9/16 at 7:36 pm to MOT
Change "small" to "private" and you get where the privates are. It's not JUST that these schools are small, that's one factor. But they don't even play football, yet they have serious influence on football playoffs. That is enough to give anyone pause.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 7:49 pm to MOT
I think they should give each class 1.5x the voting power of the previous class. Or maybe I should amend that to 1.3.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 7:50 pm to RedPop4
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Change "small" to "private" and you get where the privates are.
How? Did someone suggest private schools shouldn't have a vote as others have suggested with small schools?
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But they don't even play football, yet they have serious influence on football playoffs. That is enough to give anyone pause.
Does anyone have a link to the original football vote by school? I would be interested to see it.
ETA: Found the list. Did the all girls schools or B and C private schools that voted against the split give anyone pause?
This post was edited on 6/9/16 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 6/9/16 at 7:55 pm to OldSouth
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Can someone explain the LHSAA situation to me?
A bunch of idiots....
Posted on 6/9/16 at 8:05 pm to MOT
The only solution, given the statistical composition of the LHSAA, the privates are a serious minority. Oh they get a vote, but they can and will NEVER garner a majority on ANY issue no matter how sensible or benign. So why bother with an organization that gives you a vote which is meaningless? Why subject yourself to rules you have no chance of influencing?
Posted on 6/9/16 at 8:11 pm to RedPop4
Are they a block vote? Have they never disagreed amongst themselves on an issue? Have they never been on the winning side of a vote? Do all items brought to a vote have a public/private or select/non select origin or back story?
Why is this split somehow seen as a vote "against" private schools?
The LHSAA is a joke and its time has passed. Both sides need to form their own association, adopt bylaws or a constitution that fits their membership, and move on.
Why is this split somehow seen as a vote "against" private schools?
The LHSAA is a joke and its time has passed. Both sides need to form their own association, adopt bylaws or a constitution that fits their membership, and move on.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 9:27 pm to MOT
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How big is a school supposed to be before they're allowed to have a voice or vote? Or do they just sit in a corner with a muzzle until they're told to speak by the large school overlords?
Who said they shouldn't have a voice? But to say that they should hold the same sway as schools that have ten times the number of students isn't logical to me and many southern La parishes have consilidated their schools losing votes and influence.. The system in place is outdated with today's reality and we are seeing the results.... Two competing interest where compromise is t an option anymore.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 9:30 pm to MOT
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The LHSAA is a joke
you could have stopped right there
Posted on 6/9/16 at 9:51 pm to TROLA
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But to say that they should hold the same sway as schools that have ten times the number of students isn't logical to me
Is it logical for a class B private school to have the same weight as a class 5A public school? Why should a large school have more of a say than a smaller school, whether it be by 100 students or 1000? Do large schools field more than one team in any given sport?
Central Florida has an enrollment of what, 60,000 or so? Should their NCAA votes carry more weight than some of the P5 powerhouses because of their enrollment?
Posted on 6/9/16 at 10:20 pm to TROLA
I think three years ago they voted in classes 5A - 1A to bring the classes back together in football. The vote failed in all classes. So to the geniuses that say it's because of the B and C schools or who say the bigger schools should have more votes, it would still fail.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:03 pm to bigcatfish
Big catfish you are correct. Class B and C does not make up 56% of the vote that voted for split. If I am correct I think there are only abt 60 schools combined in B and C. Of those, abt 15 are Private/Select.
The schools that pushed this split are the 1A-3A schools. That is where most of your Private/Select schools play. Look at 1A, it's majority Private/Select. 2A abt 50%.
The schools that pushed this split are the 1A-3A schools. That is where most of your Private/Select schools play. Look at 1A, it's majority Private/Select. 2A abt 50%.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:04 pm to MOT
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Central Florida has an enrollment of what, 60,000 or so? Should their NCAA votes carry more weight than some of the P5 powerhouses because of their enrollment?
Many things voted on in the NCAA are voted on by Division. By and large, Division 3 schools don't get to vote on issues that effect only Division 1.
Reduce the number of LHSAA classes from 7 to 5 (7 is too many for a state our size). Once you do that, let each division decide whether to split into select/nonselect. Let each class set their own rules on various topics. Since we are not a growing state, move reclassification to every 4-5 years. And put a rule in that says a school doesn't get to vote on a sport-specific rule if the don't have a team in that sport.
Posted on 6/10/16 at 7:34 am to TigerintheNO
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When was that? I always remember Curtis wanting to play up but not all the way up, saying it would hurt all of their non football programs.
One year the principal at Shaw (Begg?) put in a proposal the would allow teams to play up in football and remain on the level in all other sports. It was defeated.
No sir, not quite, He was part of the "play in class" mafia that started all this make no mistake about it... Shaw and St Aug were the ONLY 2 from catholic league that would even play JC back then..... He proposes PLAYING UP ONE LEVEL - to restore the catholic league after Katrina sent some down - but he was no longer at shaw then. and the play up ONE was shot down because it was seen by the rest of the schools as self serving - which it was. Another shaw principal did have two proposals which could have prevented all this - but they got shot down... by... you know who.....
Posted on 6/10/16 at 8:53 am to choupiquesushi
To be fair, I think we aren't more than a few years away from seeing regional conferences for some private schools anyway.
This post was edited on 6/10/16 at 8:55 am
Posted on 6/10/16 at 9:05 am to More beer please
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What, you want Chalmette, Jesuit, Catholic, West Monroe to just make the rules for everyone bc they have more students?
Yes
Posted on 6/10/16 at 9:15 am to reverendotis
Well it's more silly that a 1A and 2A school is voting on stuff that affects the dome. Those games lose money. Who cares what they think. They can play their championship games at Independence stadium or Tad Gormley.
Posted on 6/10/16 at 9:26 am to GhostofJackson
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Can someone explain the LHSAA situation to me?
To be fair, I think we aren't more than a few years away from seeing regional conferences for some private schools anyway.
correct.... but this is the first step
Posted on 6/10/16 at 9:30 am to GhostofJackson
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Well it's more silly that a 1A and 2A school is voting on stuff that affects the dome. Those games lose money. Who cares what they think. They can play their championship games at Independence stadium or Tad Gormley.
dome will be a thing of the past in short order...
5a privates.... in 22 years of existence prior to split.. only 4 privates.. not named evangel were in dome.....
only WM really consistently brought a large crew...
without sponsors dome games don't happen
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