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re: Big 12 to push with expansion?
Posted on 7/23/16 at 12:01 pm to TigerintheNO
Posted on 7/23/16 at 12:01 pm to TigerintheNO
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the ACC doesn't want West Virginia
Maybe, or maybe not. The ACC's scheduling is a nightmare at the moment, but having pods would make that a whole lot easier. They discussed having 3 pods with 5 teams but that is also a clusterf**k. If they go to 16 teams the pods options works alot better. WVU would make the most sense because they do have a multiple rivals in the ACC already, and they don't have anyone actively trying to block them (i.e BC has blocked UCONN multiple times according to "internet sources").
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Posted on 7/23/16 at 12:54 pm to WeeWee
There is no maybe about it, the ACC & for that matter the SEC rejected West Virginia application. With regard to scheduling & pods, Notre Dame is not going to play a full slate of conference games, so you would be at 15 full members.
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This is hardly a shocking development from the ACC. The conference has turned down the Mountaineers a few times in the past and maintained a firm line of not accepting them into their academically elite conference. Not every conference considers academics very highly for inclusion, but the ACC is one that does.
Posted on 7/23/16 at 2:05 pm to WeeWee
I wish the Pac12 would partner with AT&T so I could get them on DirecTV. The network would also be on Uverse. I still don't think that would be ideal, but at least get them national distribution. There is usually a decent/good late night Pac 12 game late at night I would watch, but don't get the network.
Posted on 7/23/16 at 11:15 pm to Ghost of Colby
They tried to do that.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 4:48 pm to tconle2
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 4:56 pm to tconle2
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They tried to do that.
I really do think the real problem w/the Pac12Networks is they have it in their heads that they need 7 total networks instead of just one.
A huge reason they have issues w/carriage is b/c they want you to take the national Pac12Net plus the 6 other regional nets (Arizona, Bay Area, LA, Mountain, Oregon, Washington). The regional channels don't really offer enough different content than what the national feed shows to justify the Pac's insistence they are all picked up in a nationwide package w/the national feed.
If they would simply have a single Pac12Net (and possibly a second) they would likely have far greater carriage.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 8:53 am to TulaneFan
There have been a lot of articles recently pushing Tulane. Maybe not as crazy as you all think.
Could Tulane be the Big XII's Vanderbilt?
Could Tulane be the Big XII's Vanderbilt?
Posted on 7/28/16 at 9:05 am to WestCoastAg
Apparently the announcement is a new indoor practice facility. 
Posted on 7/28/16 at 1:56 pm to Fat Harry
IMO the only way Tulane gets in is if Baylor gets kicked out.
Even then it's really tough sell and the only reason to do it would be for Big 12 teams to have a greater ability to raid LA recruits.
Even then it's really tough sell and the only reason to do it would be for Big 12 teams to have a greater ability to raid LA recruits.
This post was edited on 7/28/16 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 7/28/16 at 2:06 pm to Dr RC
Tulane would have to do a major expansion on their stadium.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 2:11 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
Not really.
They could simply work out a deal where some games are in the Superdome (Texas/OU) while the rest are at Yulman (Kansas/Iowa State).
They could simply work out a deal where some games are in the Superdome (Texas/OU) while the rest are at Yulman (Kansas/Iowa State).
Posted on 7/28/16 at 2:19 pm to Dr RC
The fact that Tulane is even in the discussion tells me there's more at play than athletics here. Don't get me wrong, TU needs to pull it together for fricks sake. First and foremost, we need to compete in the American. However, when the time comes to pitch our school again, we do have some positives:
- Academics (AAU status). Tulane is one of the nation's top research universities and has a national alumni base.
- Location Location Location: College football loves New Orleans and we love CFB too. Nola will only get behind Tulane if we start winning though.
- going back to location: any conference would love to have the New Orleans metro area in their recruiting footprint (although this has never stopped many of them before).
- Tulane had committed $120 million to athletics, this sends the right message that we're serious.
That's about it.. Unless I'm missing something. It probably doesn't matter but Tulane has been playing D1 football for over 100 years and was a charter member of the SEC. Obviously they left the SEC and the rest is history, but depending on how important academics and all that are to the Big XII, it could be enough to get in. It would be nice to be relevant in college athletics.
- Academics (AAU status). Tulane is one of the nation's top research universities and has a national alumni base.
- Location Location Location: College football loves New Orleans and we love CFB too. Nola will only get behind Tulane if we start winning though.
- going back to location: any conference would love to have the New Orleans metro area in their recruiting footprint (although this has never stopped many of them before).
- Tulane had committed $120 million to athletics, this sends the right message that we're serious.
That's about it.. Unless I'm missing something. It probably doesn't matter but Tulane has been playing D1 football for over 100 years and was a charter member of the SEC. Obviously they left the SEC and the rest is history, but depending on how important academics and all that are to the Big XII, it could be enough to get in. It would be nice to be relevant in college athletics.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 2:19 pm to Dr RC
Yea that could probably work
Posted on 7/28/16 at 3:18 pm to chew4219
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I will give the Tulane administration credit for fighting hard to get into the Big 12. It won't happen, but it's admirable.
You could have an administration like the Cajuns who bury their head in the sand and hope it ends soon.
Our president and AD are like Henry Winkler in The Waterboy.
Just curious but would you mind giving me a synopsis?
TIA
Posted on 7/28/16 at 4:00 pm to FunroePete
I think most schools outside the P5 would at least make their case, right? 
ETA: What happened to ULL to CUSA? Not that that's really any better than the SBC, but is it still happening?
ETA: What happened to ULL to CUSA? Not that that's really any better than the SBC, but is it still happening?
This post was edited on 7/28/16 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 7/28/16 at 4:04 pm to WestCoastAg
Didn't the Chronicle say about a week ago they were heading to PAC 12 also?
it was Yahoo that reported it was dead that day after the Chronicle said it was happening.
it was Yahoo that reported it was dead that day after the Chronicle said it was happening.
This post was edited on 7/28/16 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 7/28/16 at 4:14 pm to Fat Harry
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Could Tulane be the Big XII's Vanderbilt?
FUUUUCCCCKKKKK NO! DO. NOT. WANT!
First off, you're no fricking Vanderbilt. Get over yourself and kick fricking rocks if you think you are in the same breath with Vanderbilt. Academically, you'd still be second fiddle to Texas. Your athletics (if you call them that) are abysmal. Your fan and alumni apathy are unrivaled. The only thing Tulane offers is New Orleans market and I'm not sold on that. If the Big 12 wants to go the academic route, just get Rice. It's a much better school in a much bigger market.
This post was edited on 7/28/16 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 7/28/16 at 4:17 pm to Grandioso
Why are you so rustled brah? Your greedy arse university started this mess... Just sayin
Posted on 7/28/16 at 4:21 pm to TulaneFan
Tulane is the perennial definition of a mid-major. They would only hurt the Big 12 and make it even weaker than it is.
The fans want in the Pac 12. Plain and simple. It's the best fit (academically and culturally).
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Your greedy arse university started this mess... Just sayin
The fans want in the Pac 12. Plain and simple. It's the best fit (academically and culturally).
Posted on 7/28/16 at 4:23 pm to Grandioso
I won't bother with the idea that Texas is a top tier academic school - around where I am right now you hear people make that kind of claim about Arizona State because they have pockets of excellence and money - which supposedly should make us overlook the overall quality of students and staff. This is only a convincing argument to people dying to be convinced.
Anyway, I can't seriously think of Tulane as a B12 expansion school because of how little academics has seemed to matter. Sure, a conference may talk about academics, and it will influence who won't be considered. But people are not rushing to invite Princeton, Columbia, Harvard, Bowdein, or Cornell to be members of major athletic conferences. It just doesn't work like that. You have to bring in athletic departments that matter and demographics (of your campus, your alumni, and your home state) that matter. At best I think Tulane has one of those three things by P5 standards - and even the one is debatable.
Anyway, I can't seriously think of Tulane as a B12 expansion school because of how little academics has seemed to matter. Sure, a conference may talk about academics, and it will influence who won't be considered. But people are not rushing to invite Princeton, Columbia, Harvard, Bowdein, or Cornell to be members of major athletic conferences. It just doesn't work like that. You have to bring in athletic departments that matter and demographics (of your campus, your alumni, and your home state) that matter. At best I think Tulane has one of those three things by P5 standards - and even the one is debatable.
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