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Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:08 am to VABuckeye
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I would never, ever have a pool with a liner.
What do you have? Fiberglass?
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:17 am to TigeRoots
Plaster
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:23 am to TigeRoots
Buddy of mine installed a saltwater pool. He claims it's pretty much maintenance free, as far as chemicals. He bought a vacuum/sweep that works sort of like a Roomba. It memorizes the shape of the pool, and after it gets programmed, it takes about an 45 minutes to completely vacuum the pool. You just drop it in and turn it on. Think he said he paid $2000 for it. He does that once a week, and skims it daily. Forget how much he pays for the salt he adds, but it was pretty minimal.
I think it's more expensive up front as it may require a special filter or something.
I think it's more expensive up front as it may require a special filter or something.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:29 am to VABuckeye
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I'm assuming a liner would require replacement
I would never, ever have a pool with a liner.
Liner's are generally $10,000 less initially and feel a lot better. So that's your choice but without listing reasons it is pretty pointless. My parents just re did a pool and priced the two out in Florida. Yes you have to replace a liner every 7-8 years, but a plaster pool has to be repainted for a very similar cost.
I'm not sure I'd be a pool guy in the north, but I personally miss seasonal work. Just because its seasonal does not mean lower pay, and you can always do a side gig to stay busy in the off season. I know plenty of people here in Florida that work about 70 hour weeks for 5 months then work around 25-30 hours for a couple months and then they have a couple months of little to no work. All of them make $100k plus. I'd rather do that personally than grind out 45-50 hour work weeks the rest of my life.
My parents spend under $100/ month on their pool outside of electricity and they have a polaris pool cleaner that runs daily that cleans the pool for them. It as like $1500 but they pay probably $200 a year in repair parts and less than an hour a week on pool upkeep. Cleaning a pool your self is really easy.
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 11:32 am
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:35 am to baldona
The primary reasons are hygiene, feel and the look. Liners can easily get wrinkles which are a bitch to deal with. It's also a place for bacteria to grow underneath the liner and I simply don't like the plastic look or feel. 
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:41 am to baldona
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but a plaster pool has to be repainted for a very similar cost.
Plaster pools don't get repainted as they aren't painted in the first place. They get replastered. Commercial pools only need this done about every 10 years so it stands to reason that a residential pool will get longer life out of the plaster if proper care is taken.
Personally, if I had a choice I'd probably get something like Pebbletec but the pool came with the house and we're happy with it.
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Cleaning a pool your self is really easy.
It's the value of my time vs the savings. I earn much more than the expense by having someone else do the pool for me. We also travel a fair amount so I wouldn't always be around to do the weekly maintenance.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:36 pm to The Spleen
Parents don't pay anyone to take care of their pool. But my mom's retired, so it's not like she can't go change out the canister they put in the filter system. Plus they plug in the vacuum thing and it pretty much takes care of it.
But, the "chemical" canister they have to put in is like $45 a month on it's own. And they don't have any trees or anything, so it's not like a lot gets in the pool. If I had a pool that I had to physically skim myself, I'd pay for service. We looked at a house with a pool and the real estate lady said it's about $125 a month where we live. Already paying $45ish for the chemicals, so it's not like it's that much more.
But, the "chemical" canister they have to put in is like $45 a month on it's own. And they don't have any trees or anything, so it's not like a lot gets in the pool. If I had a pool that I had to physically skim myself, I'd pay for service. We looked at a house with a pool and the real estate lady said it's about $125 a month where we live. Already paying $45ish for the chemicals, so it's not like it's that much more.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:51 pm to KG6
You bring up a good point. The cost of the chemicals, etc. is included in the weekly service that we pay for.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:23 pm to VABuckeye
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It's the value of my time vs the savings. I earn much more than the expense by having someone else do the pool for me. We also travel a fair amount so I wouldn't always be around to do the weekly maintenance.
some just cannot comprehend this. I agree. as the years pass my time is worth more and more.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 2:15 pm to dallastiger55
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holy s really? i live in Dallas and we are thinking of getting a pool and weighing the costs. i never knew that was the monthly maintenance. that might make my decision for me.
You were just freaking out about losing your job and you're about to get a pool?
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:05 pm to Fat Bastard
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some just cannot comprehend this. I agree. as the years pass my time is worth more and more.
Actually I think everyone understands this. But as you age you generally make more and have more flexible income. This is more to VAtiger than anyone, but no one does chores themselves that they can easily pay for. VATiger is talking about something that he has obviously never done and has little experience doing himself tho. He's paying about $30/ week for a pool cleaner plus chemicals. So that's like 20 minutes of work a week, pool guys make $15-25/ hour plus their travel and what not. Plus getting a Polaris or other brand of pool cleaner and adding chemicals yourself literally takes 15 minutes a week for most people. Then you have the knowledge yourself so if it rains you know what to do and don't have to call the pool guy over and lose 2 days of pool use because you are clueless.
I don't have any issue with paying for a service that you don't have to, but it's rather obnoxious to act as though it's something that's above you and everyone should do the same.
On a similar note, this is also something to remember about making it a career though. That pool cleaners are not necessary like a landscaper. So if the economy sucks then your business will be even worse as you will be the first thing that people stop paying for.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 4:00 pm to baldona
I presume that you meant VABuckeye although I'm paying more than $30 a week for my service.
I know how to backwash the pool and adjust the chemicals if I absolutely had to do it but my time is better spent running and growing my company. There's no comparison in value for me. I also understand that others may want to do it themselves and more power to them.
I know how to backwash the pool and adjust the chemicals if I absolutely had to do it but my time is better spent running and growing my company. There's no comparison in value for me. I also understand that others may want to do it themselves and more power to them.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 4:33 pm to Fat Bastard
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I agree. as the years pass my time is worth more and more.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 4:35 pm to The Spleen
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He claims it's pretty much maintenance free, as far as chemicals.
It's not.
It still uses acid and salt.
I've had both and tbh, both have pluses and minuses.
It's a wash, really.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 4:56 pm to TigeRoots
Buy a TF test kit about $100, yearly refills are $35 takes me 10mins to test everything - spend some time on trouble free pool - taking care of a pool really isn't that difficult - costs me $35 a year for the test kit refills and maybe $250 in salt and other adds that I may need. I have a $400 vacuum that keeps my clean spotless and runs all by itsef.
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 6/16/16 at 6:54 pm to TigeRoots
$2300 seems like a lot. I keep my pool open year round, so I don't have opening and closing costs, but here in key west I pay my guy $100 a month for weekly service including chemicals. I don't know anyone paying close to $200.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 7:45 pm to dallastiger55
We don't really use the pool enough to justify the cost. Wife likes it but money pit. Including repairing pool items that break during the year way cheaper to have a club membership
Posted on 6/17/16 at 1:03 am to Polar Pop
I can answer any question you have about this business.
Did it for 15 years and still keep a few of my upper-end clients and do liner/equipment replacements and cover installs when asked for a bid.
I hated the seasonal aspect of it but opening/closing times were solid months of $10-20K profit. Opening disaster pools was my niche. Commercial work is where the better money is.
Like any service business Quality, Consistency, and Personality, Hustle and Efficiency will be your keys.
Did it for 15 years and still keep a few of my upper-end clients and do liner/equipment replacements and cover installs when asked for a bid.
I hated the seasonal aspect of it but opening/closing times were solid months of $10-20K profit. Opening disaster pools was my niche. Commercial work is where the better money is.
Like any service business Quality, Consistency, and Personality, Hustle and Efficiency will be your keys.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 6:52 am to kaaj24
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Here in Dallas ton of homes with pools. I pay $177 per month for weekly service.
I pay $225.00 monthly, includes weekly service call, which includes salt and acid.
This post was edited on 6/17/16 at 7:00 am
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