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re: Is it super dumb to finance a vehicle for 72 months?

Posted on 3/3/17 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9780 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 12:33 pm to
I always thought that the dealership will make their profit one way or another.

And that 0% interest is paid up-front in the cost of the vehicle. In other words, you would get a lower price if you didn't do 0%.

Right or wrong?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39555 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

I always thought that the dealership will make their profit one way or another. And that 0% interest is paid up-front in the cost of the vehicle. In other words, you would get a lower price if you didn't do 0%. Right or wrong?


Somebody in life is always making money or they wouldn't be in business. I'm not too worried about someone "making money" on a basic Toyota Camry that is $25,000 brand new.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 12:43 pm to
I almost always finance for 72 months, but usually have it paid off in 36 months. I don't have a financially smart explanation for why I've done it that way. I did it with the first car I financed when I was younger and not as financially secure.
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
17107 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:03 pm to
I financed a brand new Taco at 75 months for 2% and I am about a year and half away from paying it off. At the time I bought it, I did not want to put a ton down on a car and wasn't making nearly as much as I am now. Turned out to be a solid decision for me(at least in my eyes) and it was for a truck I truly wanted and didn't mind paying for. Also, if I had to sell it now for whatever reason I would get about $13k out of it including whats left on the loan. So how is this bad?
Posted by dshort_bruh
Verbena
Member since Sep 2016
507 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:14 pm to
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You can't afford it if you have to go 72 months.


No one mentioned having to go that long to afford it.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89484 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:28 pm to
Let's assume for the sake of argument that we consider financing a vehicle (paying for a depreciating asset with borrowed money, with interest - however nominal) a necessary evil.

The min/maxers will come in here and say, "I can invest the payment and make money on it idiot" blah, blah, blah.

In every...single...case - vehicle financing costs you money in depreciation, period. 72-month is particularly subversive because it allows the folks who right ought to be in a $7500 beater to drive a $50k car because they can "afford" the payments. So, they pay $700 a month for 6 years instead of 1 year.

Pay as much as you can afford down, and finance for as short a period as you can, even if it hurts. Why? Because it's super dumb to do otherwise.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

In every...single...case - vehicle financing costs you money in depreciation, period. 72-month is particularly subversive because it allows the folks who right ought to be in a $7500 beater to drive a $50k car because they can "afford" the payments. So, they pay $700 a month for 6 years instead of 1 year.


I think every person who has said they would stretch it out has also said it can't be used to buy more car than you can afford.

If you can only afford a 7500 beater, this is NOT something you can consider.

But if I can use my money all up front to pay for a 30K car, or I can use someone else's money at a rate less than inflation, why would I not at least consider it?
Posted by 420centraltime
Gump nation
Member since Feb 2013
959 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 2:29 pm to
Just did a 2.9% 7 year note on my truck. Had a 14k trade in though. The extra interest was on a little over 1k difference between 5-7 year. Figured I'd take the lower monthly payment vs a little more interest over time.
Posted by Cool Hand Luke
Member since Oct 2008
1802 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 2:35 pm to
Only problem is you give up all manufacturer incentives to get 72 months at 0%. So you pay for it one way or another.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89484 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

But if I can use my money all up front to pay for a 30K car, or I can use someone else's money at a rate less than inflation, why would I not at least consider it?


Here is the limited situation - you have $30k in some liquid form that you can - seamlessly - write a check for the car you want.

IF under those circumstances, you finance the car and make the payments to keep that liquidity earning a greater rate than your APR? Yeah - you can finance in that very limited situation without hurting yourself.

I bet this applies to 5% or less of auto finance loans.
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1830 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 4:14 pm to
It is interesting to think about though. I drive an old used truck so I don't have a dog in this fight. if you have 30-40k to buy a new truck and you choose to invest the money and pay the note. What is the break even point or could it possibly be better to buy a new one over a used one based on the lower interest rates but larger depreciation.
Posted by Shenanigans
Spring Hill, TN
Member since Nov 2012
2394 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:53 pm to
I financed a new Mazda CX-9 for the wife at 2.49 for 75 months last July. I pay way more than the minimum each month and want to get it paid off in 36-48 months. I barely put anything down on it but am already back in the black in value vs. balance.

Helps when my car is a 2004 4Runner that's been paid for for quite some time. I bought that one used and paid it off in 36 months.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18734 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 7:21 am to
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Only problem is you give up all manufacturer incentives to get 72 months at 0%. So you pay for it one way or another.


That can be the case. I was going to do zero percent for 60 months, but then I found out that it was either that or the $2500 rebate.

I took the $2500 and paid cash. I also get a good deal of psychological satisfaction from not paying a monthly note, even if it might not always be the smartest financial play on paper.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19814 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:53 am to
Means you can't afford it!!
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27003 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 9:23 am to
quote:

Means you can't afford it!!


Only if you can't afford it. I financed my car for 72 months when I could have paid it off in 36. I'm paying 2% interest and didn't see the point in creating a mandatory monthly obligation which was higher than it needed to be.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

Why would you want to have cash tied up in a depreciating asset


Doesn't matter whether it depreciates. What matters is the interest rate. So long as the rate is less than 2% (the long-term rate of inflation), stretch that baby out as long as you can.

The only way depreciation matters is if you total the car when it is less valuable than the loan balance.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6086 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 10:13 am to
In general, it's dumb to finance a vehicle at all, unless you are getting a really low rate.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 11:10 am to
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really low rate.


What's a really low rate to you all? Was presented some preliminary numbers for a note yesterday and they seemed really high. When I asked what interest rate they were using they told me those numbers were based on the average customer who gets around 8%!!! That blew my mind. I've never financed for anything over 4% and that was right out of college. We did 72 months yesterday at 2.4%. 60 months was 1.9%. This thread really convinced me to look at 72. If I pay it off at a 5 year term, it's just 400 dollars more overall to get the 2.4 instead of 1.9. And the 400 was worth the ability to pay less if I wanted to. Hopefully we pay this off in 3 anyway.
Posted by Ingloriousbastard
Member since May 2015
917 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 12:42 pm to
It really just depends on the interest rate and your financial situation. 1.9% or less is perfectly fine IMO. You have a smaller monthly commitment, but you aren't wasting a ton in interest. Also, you could always pay extra principal (which I would recommend).
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6086 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 4:38 pm to
In general, I would say less than 3%. But if you have a project going on and you need a car and 6% is the best you can do, then fine...as long as that project yields above 6%.
But car loans for people who just "want a new car" is generally a bad move. Keep your car for another 5 years, take what you would have paid on your note and save/invest it, and in 5 years you'll have a nice nest egg and be able to get off of the endless car note merry go round.
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