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Amazon just crushed earnings

Posted on 4/28/16 at 4:13 pm
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24163 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 4:13 pm
I have accepted that Google and Amazon are going to run our lives and I am perfectly ok with it.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
16878 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 4:17 pm to
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run our lives


you mean "help our lives"?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39584 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 4:20 pm to
No, run is correct
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10267 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 4:52 pm to
Don't forget about Facebook!

Interesting that all the "unproductive" stocks are thriving in this mess of an economy.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 5:09 pm to
FANG continues to just crush it.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10267 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 5:53 pm to
Not really Netflix so much lately though. I think people are tired of paying for mediocre content. We were at least.

That and Asia just steals everything so hard to grow that market.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 6:11 pm to
Yeah, but fig isn't an acceptable nickname for the group.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10230 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 6:28 pm to
I'm an idiot, I don't own and FANG directly. Maybe indirectly through some fund, but I don't know.

Figures.
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7222 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 6:43 pm to
The main reason I still like Netflix is bc more and more people are cutting cable. I wanted to pull the trigger multiple times on amazon but never did. Not sure if I missed out or if it is still a good buy.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 6:47 pm to
The funny thing is: FANG (diamondback energy) is not only the only oil stock doing well, it's tripled in value in the last 3 years.

I have to wonder if the acronym is giving good vibes to the ticker.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10230 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 7:26 pm to
I don't know, but I probably need to add GOOG at some point as a long term hold. I just can't make myself buy Amazon becuase I'm old fashioned, and I believe a company has to eventually make money. It's been a while since I looked, but I think their debt concerned me as well. Facebook and Netflix I'd consider prone to new technology risk.. e.g. Radio Shack and Polaroid.

But I need to look. But I'm guessing Google, or whatever they're called now, is probably what I'd settle on as a buy (after some sort of correction), hold and forget.

Or as much as a guy like me can forget, which is to say, it would be streaming at least Level 2 almost every day, all day long.

But I don't directly own any of these. I might have traded them at some point. But whatever run up there was, I was left outside looking in.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10267 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 7:36 pm to
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Yeah, but fig isn't an acceptable nickname for the group.


Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13664 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:15 pm to
I questioned Amazon, until I went to visit my wife's relatives in NYC.

I thought I bought a bunch of crap on Amazon (maybe one delivery/week), but they were getting two packages delivered per day from them. If you think about it, there is not a Walmart or Target in Manhattan (still might be a crappy Kmart on 14 street), but those are millions of people buying daily staples from Amazon. Combine that with the other metro areas, and that's a huge market.
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7222 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:41 pm to
Do yall think amazon is a buy even after the big jump with earnings?
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10267 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:46 pm to
Still "expensive" in terms of valuation, but they are a monster, so I don't see them getting too much cheaper either. This is a buy the dip, because there will always be dips.

They've finally turned profitable 2q in a row now, which is a great vote of confidence.
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:02 pm to
The reality is Amazon as amazing a company as it may be, and believe me I use amazon a ton, is just ridiculously valued. Tomorrow when it opens close to $700 you're talking a $315B+ valuation. What is the upside to a purchase up here? Is amazon going to be $630B? Which would be a 100% trade? I mean apple is only $540B and they have $200B+ of cash lol amazon is nowhere near that level of cash reverse.

So as amazing as amazon as, the valuation, which has always been absurd, is reaching levels of ridiculousness. Amazing company, amazing stock.....but if you buy up here, dont be shocked if you dont get rich.
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:31 pm to
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So as amazing as amazon as, the valuation, which has always been absurd, is reaching levels of ridiculousness. Amazing company, amazing stock.....but if you buy up here, dont be shocked if you dont get rich.


Sadly I've been saying this since day 1 in so many words and I haven't made a dollar because of it. It defies all investment philosophy and I'll probably never invest in it....damnit
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10267 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:33 pm to
So, corrected from my previous post, it's actually been 4q of straight profitability. Even better.

Now, the last 4 quarters were: .17/.19/1.00/1.07

Their trailing PE at $700 is at 288. Not that bad at all. Add in two more quarters in even the low one dollar range and you've cut that multiple in half. The forward PE is what you need to look at with these types. And hell yes they should be more valuable than Apple.
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:49 pm to
I could care less about the PE, what I care about is the most valuable company in america is apple and its $540B and Amazon is basically $315B tomorrow. Apple has $200b+ of cash therefore Apple=Amazon. To me Amazon obviously has way more potential than apple, but apple does still have $200B in cash and immense profitability. I dont know but Amazon is officially off the deep end as far as im concerned. Think about the real estate portfolio walmart has, its just incredible and amazon is way more valuable as we speak. Insanity. I dont really care I have no skin in the game, congrats to all the longs but wow just wow.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10267 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:17 pm to
Geeze, ok. Is this some reverse buyers remorse?

Look, I'll respectfully disagree with your analysis and comparisons. As far as Apple, they'll be fine, but cash really isn't that valuable of an asset if you don't do anything with it. And the real estate portfolio for Walmart is about to turn into a real estate liability. It just is.

Also, Amazon doesn't just ship brown boxes that are 5x the size of whatever you ordered. They also are in the cloud/web service business - hell, they even service Netflix. And of course their own media division.

I'm not a buyer at $700 personally right now, but there are reasons IMO for it to be at these levels.
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