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re: Y do we Jump on JJ so hard?
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:48 am to More beer please
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:48 am to More beer please
quote:i defended Lee because he was not the single reason we lost the game, if you think his pick 6 on the first play of the game is the sole reason we lost or the pick six with 3 minutes left when we were down 14 lost the game, i don't know what to say... we lost that game because Georgia scored the next drive after every one of our TDs. Im not defending his pick six, im defending the fact that this guy is saying he directly lost this game... its not like he threw a pick 6 and we lost 7-0
You said how can you defend the defense for giving up that many points, so I ask you, How can you defend Lee for giving up that many points?
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Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:49 am to MightyYat
quote:give him time im sure hes not far
I just wanted to chime in to see if Doc showed up yet.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:49 am to LSUdm21
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Lee's QB play DIRECTLY DECIDED THE OUTCOME OF THE UGA AND BAMA GAMES.
It's hardly as cut and dry as you make it out to be, but whatever makes you feel better, I guess
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:50 am to LSUdm21
Because he has the tools but not the leadership. He quit on his team in the middle of several close games beause he was hurting...not injured. Leaders play hurt.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:52 am to TruLsu
You just stated how can we defend a defense that gave up so many points and I ask you how can you defend a QB that does the same thing when he is supposed to be the one scoring. Not just the UGA game but all of his games
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:53 am to TruLsu
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i defended Lee because he was not the single reason we lost the game, if you think his pick 6 on the first play of the game is the sole reason we lost or the pick six with 3 minutes left when we were down 14 lost the game, i don't know what to say... we lost that game because Georgia scored the next drive after every one of our TDs. Im not defending his pick six, im defending the fact that this guy is saying he directly lost this game... its not like he threw a pick 6 and we lost 7-0
Please find where I said he was the only reason we lost that game? I never said that. This thread is talking about QB play. In '08 Jarrett Lee almost set the NCAA record for pick 6s. In the UGA game, AS SHITTY AS OUR DEFENSE WAS, if we get just bad QB play instead of horrendous we win that game. Same goes for Bama. Our D was stout as frick that game. Jarrett Clause gave Lil' Nicky 7.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:54 am to DaCajun1
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Lee's QB play DIRECTLY DECIDED THE OUTCOME OF THE UGA AND BAMA GAMES.
You're damn right it did, think we score 38 and 21 points with JJ in those games? Not even close just as the offense would start to move... sack sack punt.
As far as the UGA game, if our defense would have shown up we win the game no matter the pick 6.
And Bama Chris Hawkins dropped a no doubt pick 6 that would have put us up 21-0 I believe.
This post was edited on 6/17/10 at 11:55 am
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:55 am to LSUdm21
At the end of the day, if we had retained the QB that we had intended to start, we likely go 10-2 in 2008 with wins over Alabama, Arkansas, and Georgia, and could have potentially gone undefeated in 2009.
The QB situation sucks regardless of whether you're on Team Lee or Team Jefferson. They both have obvious faults. They both seem to be head cases. Let's just shut up about the lesser of two evils and hope that our blocking and running games pick up.
The QB situation sucks regardless of whether you're on Team Lee or Team Jefferson. They both have obvious faults. They both seem to be head cases. Let's just shut up about the lesser of two evils and hope that our blocking and running games pick up.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:57 am to arobbi3
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Not even close just as the offense would start to move... sack sack punt.
Is that worse than giving up 6 points right of the bat?
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:59 am to TigerRagAndrew
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It's hardly as cut and dry as you make it out to be, but whatever makes you feel better, I guess
Jesus tap dancing Christ. I know what all goes into a fricking football game. Are you telling me if Lee doesn't throw those pick 6s, EVEN WITH THE DEFENSE SUCKING arse, we don't win both games? How can anyone dispute that?
Posted on 6/17/10 at 12:04 pm to LSUdm21
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Is that worse than giving up 6 points right of the bat?
Really? Of course it is. UGA went on to score at will the rest of the game. If we score 38 points in any SEC game we should win.
This post was edited on 6/17/10 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 6/17/10 at 12:04 pm to LSUdm21
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Jarrett Lee almost set the NCAA record for pick 6s
You guys also seem to forget that the rest of the offense(mainly D. Byrd) made no attempt to tackle or prevent the ball from being intercepted towards the end of that season.
But Jarrett Lee > Jefferson. Its like picking which turd looks better.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 12:07 pm to arobbi3
You didnt answer the question, is giving up a sack and punting worse than a pick six?
Posted on 6/17/10 at 12:08 pm to Lloyd Christmas
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Lloyd Christmas
You also seem to forget the offense didnt always have a chance to talk the guy
Posted on 6/17/10 at 12:10 pm to More beer please
He did answer and I agree with him. Giving up 6 points on the first drive and responding with about 250 yards and 2-3 TDs is not worse than 175 yards and 1 TD throughout the course of the entire game.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 12:10 pm to Lloyd Christmas
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Jesus tap dancing Christ. I know what all goes into a fricking football game. Are you telling me if Lee doesn't throw those pick 6s, EVEN WITH THE DEFENSE SUCKING arse, we don't win both games? How can anyone dispute that?
So, you're saying because he threw a pick 6 at the beginning of the game our defense should just roll over and concede to give up 38 points?
And like I said before, our defense dropped a pick 6 against bama. So because our defense doesn't make a play and bama's does ------> JL's fault
Posted on 6/17/10 at 12:12 pm to More beer please
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You didnt answer the question, is giving up a sack and punting worse than a pick six?
Yes I did answer, I would rather give up 7 points at the begging of the game and score 38 points than take 3-6 sacks and score 21
Posted on 6/17/10 at 12:18 pm to More beer please
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You also seem to forget the offense didnt always have a chance to talk the guy
I agree on some of them, but the team also quit on some them as well.
Personally I think we should go to 2-qb system. I think the Hatch/Lee was going pretty well until Hatch got hurt. Jefferson and Lee both have confidence issues, so it cant hurt.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 12:21 pm to arobbi3
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and score 38 points than take 3-6 sacks and score 21
That wasnt part of my question. You cant place point scoring soley on the qb. However sacks and INTs are a little different
Posted on 6/17/10 at 12:23 pm to Lloyd Christmas
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I think the Hatch/Lee was going pretty well until Hatch got hurt.
T.C. McCarthy would have looked pretty good against Appalachain State and North Texas.
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Jefferson and Lee both have confidence issues, so it cant hurt.
Or each of them can see that they get benched in favor of the other when they frick up and both become even more passive with the ball and the team gets divided between the two players.
I hate hate hate the two-QB system
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