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Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:00 am to LSUdm21
quote:while i agree the pick 6s didn't help, but our defense still gave up 38 fricking points at home to this team... that's fricking unacceptable
If Lee doesn't throw the pick sixes in 08 we beat UGA
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:04 am to TruLsu
Just face it we need better QB play.. :beatdeadhorse:
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:07 am to Smitty55
Regardless of what your opinion about JJ is...JJ was at the helm for one of the worst offenses in the NCAA last year.
Was this all his fault? Certainly not. But he deserves some criticism for the untimely sacks- as does the line and the coaching/play calling.
He deserves some criticism for not understanding the Option (short side or not)- as does the coach trying to teach him to run it.
I agree that deriding JJ is not productive, but one can certainly point out areas for improvement in his game.
That being said, He is a far better athlete than I was, and likely far better than anyone criticizing him on this forum.
Was this all his fault? Certainly not. But he deserves some criticism for the untimely sacks- as does the line and the coaching/play calling.
He deserves some criticism for not understanding the Option (short side or not)- as does the coach trying to teach him to run it.
I agree that deriding JJ is not productive, but one can certainly point out areas for improvement in his game.
That being said, He is a far better athlete than I was, and likely far better than anyone criticizing him on this forum.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:12 am to NimbleCat
quote:
Regardless of what your opinion about JJ is...JJ was at the helm for one of the worst offenses in the NCAA last year.
Was this all his fault? Certainly not. But he deserves some criticism for the untimely sacks- as does the line and the coaching/play calling.
He deserves some criticism for not understanding the Option (short side or not)- as does the coach trying to teach him to run it.
I agree that deriding JJ is not productive, but one can certainly point out areas for improvement in his game.
That being said, He is a far better athlete than I was, and likely far better than anyone criticizing him on this forum.
This!!
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:14 am to Trifecta
u hit he nail on the head
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:15 am to TruLsu
quote:
while i agree the pick 6s didn't help, but our defense still gave up 38 fricking points at home to this team... that's fricking unacceptable
35... Lee had two returned for TDs and another that set up Georgia in the redzone. The D actually held them to a FG on that drive.
It's still shitty, but would have given us the W.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:17 am to TruLsu
quote:
while i agree the pick 6s didn't help, but our defense still gave up 38 fricking points at home to this team... that's fricking unacceptable
Ummmm, the pick 6s DIRECTLY decided the outcomes of both games. We lost by 9 to UGA and Lee gave them 14. We were tied with Bama at the end of the regulation and Lee gave them 7. That's not the defenses fault.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:22 am to LSUdm21
quote:giving up 38 at home and a TD after every scoring drive we had is the defense's fault. no reason whatsoever an LSU defense should give up that many points at home. and i didnt address the BAMA game bc IMO that was the only game besides GA Tech that the defense showed up for. but UGA and Fl our D gave up many too many points, im strictly pointing at UGA though, the game was at home and yea Lee gave them 14 points, but the D gave them 38. No excuses for giving up that many points in a game
That's not the defenses fault.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:25 am to TruLsu
psst (The QB isn't supposed to give them any points at all)
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:25 am to TruLsu
quote:
No excuses for giving up that many points in a game
Right, so you cant defend Lee on the UGA game
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:28 am to TruLsu
The thing that bothers me the most about the whole JJ v. JL debate is that the JJ supporters expect JJ to improve but they don't expect JL to improve.
If anyone watching the stinkin' spring game had no idea who the starter was and who the backup was beforehand, he would have guessed the starter was JL. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was another pick 6, but that pass, though not perfect, went right through the receiver's hands. After that pick 6, JL was solid.
JJ, on the other hand, not so much.
I sure as hell hope JJ improves mightily over the summer from his pathetic spring game performance, and I wish people would give JL a chance. He may be playing a lot more than you think if JJ doesn't progress.
The bottom line is both QBs need to show improvement before September 4.
If anyone watching the stinkin' spring game had no idea who the starter was and who the backup was beforehand, he would have guessed the starter was JL. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was another pick 6, but that pass, though not perfect, went right through the receiver's hands. After that pick 6, JL was solid.
JJ, on the other hand, not so much.
I sure as hell hope JJ improves mightily over the summer from his pathetic spring game performance, and I wish people would give JL a chance. He may be playing a lot more than you think if JJ doesn't progress.
The bottom line is both QBs need to show improvement before September 4.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:29 am to More beer please
quote:
I dont recall a QB badgered in my life more than Lee.
If the rant existed after the Jamie Howard against Auburn debacle you would have!
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:32 am to mtntiger
quote:
JJ supporters expect JJ to improve but they don't expect JL to improve.
Not true, we expected him to improve and he threw ANOTHER pick six and didnt look great although it was better than JJ. Blame it on whoever, the point is it happened again and who is to say he wont continue doing it?
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:33 am to TruLsu
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giving up 38 at home and a TD after every scoring drive we had is the defense's fault. no reason whatsoever an LSU defense should give up that many points at home. and i didnt address the BAMA game bc IMO that was the only game besides GA Tech that the defense showed up for. but UGA and Fl our D gave up many too many points, im strictly pointing at UGA though, the game was at home and yea Lee gave them 14 points, but the D gave them 38. No excuses for giving up that many points in a game
Jesus Christ. You're missing the entire point. Every post in this thread is about QBs not defense.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:36 am to mtntiger
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I sure as hell hope JJ improves mightily over the summer from his pathetic spring game performance
I'd love to see McElroy forcing passes to a receiver with a broken hand and a converted QB against the coverage of Peterson, Claiborne, Eugene, and Hatcher.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:38 am to LSUdm21
quote:you're missing the point of my post, you took the UGA game and planted it directly on Lee for us losing, i defended Lee in that case and stated a case about the defense losing that game...
Jesus Christ. You're missing the entire point. Every post in this thread is about QBs not defense.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:43 am to TruLsu
quote:
i defended Lee
You said how can you defend the defense for giving up that many points, so I ask you, How can you defend Lee for giving up that many points?
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:44 am to TruLsu
quote:
you're missing the point of my post, you took the UGA game and planted it directly on Lee for us losing, i defended Lee in that case and stated a case about the defense losing that game...
But this thread is about QB PLAY. How hard is that to understand really? The defense in '08 is worthy of it own shitty thread. Lee's QB play DIRECTLY DECIDED THE OUTCOME OF THE UGA AND BAMA GAMES. There's really no argument for that. Go start a thread about our shitty defense to make yourself feel better.
Posted on 6/17/10 at 11:46 am to LSUdm21
I just wanted to chime in to see if Doc showed up yet.
BTW, JJ > JL.
BTW, JJ > JL.
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