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Posted on 10/16/09 at 1:10 am to chilge1
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All I know is that as long as Les Miles is at LSU... and provided his seasons match the win totals of 05, 06, and 07 moreso than they do of 08, he has my support.
but, the question you have to ask yourself is, "does the program look like its going to maintain that steady course?". I don't believe so.
Posted on 10/16/09 at 1:12 am to Elleshoe
it will, they two years away from winning another bcs title
Posted on 10/16/09 at 1:13 am to seinfeldtiger
if Miles wins one with his own talent, I'll be shocked and will eat plates of crown happily.
Posted on 10/16/09 at 1:14 am to Sammich
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He also has Three 11+ win seasons.
Come on, you could pull out almost an D1 coach and they'd have that success with LSU's talent over those three years. There was no one in the West consistently worth a damn other than Auburn. Les' 2005 season was a good coaching job, though.
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Look in the LSU Football history archives.
I'll see Saban's title before Miles', which will lead me to my assumption that Miles' success is due to Saban's success.
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2008 - Definately defeated by Florida of the SEC
First of all, and this is just a pet peeve, it's "definitely," without the "a". Second, the SECCG is considered postseason play. Saban has not lost a regular season SEC game since Auburn in 2007.
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..and he doesn't coach at LSU.
This post was edited on 10/16/09 at 1:15 am
Posted on 10/16/09 at 1:14 am to Elleshoe
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but, the question you have to ask yourself is, "does the program look like its going to maintain that steady course?". I don't believe so.
You're one of the followers that says stuff like:
"This year will be the TRUE test of Les Miles as a head coach"...10 minutes after he's lost a key player to a season ending injury.
Posted on 10/16/09 at 1:14 am to Elleshoe
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"does the program look like its going to maintain that steady course?"
After losing to Arkansas, did it look like we were going to make it to the NC?
Call it being fortuitous, but everything just seems to go Miles' way. Even this year, with the most pitiful offense in recent memory, I can still see us realistically blowing out the in-state schools and escaping Auburn, Arkansas, and Ole MIss with wins. You can say that we should be blowing out those teams rather than scraping by, but it's all the same to me.
For the time being, we're on rough water, but things are manageable. Let's see how the season plays out. If we do what I said before and go 11-2 after blowing out some scrub in a bowl, then Miles will have my full faith yet again.
If he brings us another 8-5 season, then I'll start to wonder.
Posted on 10/16/09 at 1:16 am to Sammich
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You're one of the followers that says stuff like:
"This year will be the TRUE test of Les Miles as a head coach"...10 minutes after he's lost a key player to a season ending injury.
thats not true. I think he did his best coaching job in 2005. In 2006 we lost 2 games with the most talented team in LSU history. In 2007, coaching cost us 2 games we should have won. 2008 speaks for itself, and the offense in 2009 is putrid.
This post was edited on 10/16/09 at 1:18 am
Posted on 10/16/09 at 1:18 am to AlexLSU
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Les' 2005 season was a good coaching job, though.
I know you're a huge critic, but good is not doing the man service. Getting the wins he did amidst all the shite that happened that season was nothing short of miraculous.
Posted on 10/16/09 at 1:19 am to Elleshoe
les miles was also the only coach is lsu history to beat Auburn, Florida and Alabama in the same year right?
I think Les Miles was the first Coach in LSU history to have back to back to back 11 win seasons at lsu..
This argument you guys is having is retarded... We all know deep down every LSU fan wishes we still had Nick Saban.. soo shutup..
Les Miles has done a great job by winning with the talent provided.. He is a great coach and if i needed 1 coach for 1 game and had a month to prepare.. i would def use coach miles..
if i needed someone to rebuild my program.. i mean come on.. who else would you call?
They both have their strengths and weaknesses.. Please stop arguing about this.. i mean come on.. it's over and done with..
Les Miles is our coach. You may not like it, but the guy finds a way to win. I dont care if it is Ugly.. i don't care if it's by a point... i don't care if it's "lucky".. a win is a win.. and when you play in the SEC you should take it and run with it...
Thank you.. Have a great day!
I think Les Miles was the first Coach in LSU history to have back to back to back 11 win seasons at lsu..
This argument you guys is having is retarded... We all know deep down every LSU fan wishes we still had Nick Saban.. soo shutup..
Les Miles has done a great job by winning with the talent provided.. He is a great coach and if i needed 1 coach for 1 game and had a month to prepare.. i would def use coach miles..
if i needed someone to rebuild my program.. i mean come on.. who else would you call?
They both have their strengths and weaknesses.. Please stop arguing about this.. i mean come on.. it's over and done with..
Les Miles is our coach. You may not like it, but the guy finds a way to win. I dont care if it is Ugly.. i don't care if it's by a point... i don't care if it's "lucky".. a win is a win.. and when you play in the SEC you should take it and run with it...
Thank you.. Have a great day!
Posted on 10/16/09 at 1:21 am to Elleshoe
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n 2006 we lost 2 games with the most talented team in LSU history. In 2007, coaching cost us 2 games we should have won. 2008 speaks for itself, and the offense in 2009 is putrid.
2005 = Katrina
2006 = Refgate and Jamarcus
2007 = Injuries and Durability
2008 = Perrilloux and Pelini
2009 = ???
I'm aware that these excuses (sans 2005) can inevitably find their way back to MIles, but you can't say he was working under ideal conditions.
Posted on 10/16/09 at 1:23 am to chilge1
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I know you're a huge critic, but good is not doing the man service. Getting the wins he did amidst all the shite that happened that season was nothing short of miraculous.
It was not the main part of my post, so I just kind of threw it in there. It was a great job of coaching. Miraculous it was not. We beat a bunch of teams that we were better than, then when we faced a team that was on our level (UGA), we got smoked because of the fatigue. I have never been so proud of an LSU team though as I was during that season.
Posted on 10/16/09 at 1:23 am to G8RH8R
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We all know deep down every LSU fan wishes we still had Nick Saban.. soo shutup..
Maybe those that live in the past. You're setting yourself up for disappointment if you can't get past someone who left you and is never coming back.
Posted on 10/16/09 at 1:23 am to chilge1
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I'm aware that these excuses (sans 2005) can inevitably find their way back to MIles, but you can't say he was working under ideal conditions.
2006 is a horrible excuse. What does JaMarcus have to do with anything. He didn't cost us one thing in those 2 loses. Poor play calling did us in at Auburn and an all around horrible team effort fricked us at Florida. In 2007, Scott should have been in the ENTIRE second half, not Hester. Then against Arkansas, we got conservative. They gave us the ball twice inside the twenty and we walked away with SIX points. If we step on their throats there, we win. But Crowton called some bum juice conservative running plays and settled for 3 each time.
Posted on 10/16/09 at 1:24 am to AlexLSU
Posted on 10/16/09 at 1:24 am to chilge1
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You're setting yourself up for disappointment if you can't get past someone who left you and is never coming back.
I just know there are guys we could get that would do a better job than Miles and there names aren't Nick Saban.
Posted on 10/16/09 at 1:30 am to Elleshoe
I'm of the opinion, and I assume you share it, that everything that went wrong in those games is INDIRECTLY Miles' fault. Having players ready for a game, keeping his Offensive Coordinator hungry, etc. But there's nothing he's done that has directly led to a loss.
There may very well be other coaches not named Saban out there more fitting than Les for our HC spot, but like I said before, If he keeps cranking out 11 win seasons, I don't feel the need to replace him.
There may very well be other coaches not named Saban out there more fitting than Les for our HC spot, but like I said before, If he keeps cranking out 11 win seasons, I don't feel the need to replace him.
Posted on 10/16/09 at 1:32 am to AlexLSU
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Come on, you could pull out almost an D1 coach and they'd have that success with LSU's talent over those three years.
But for some reason None achieved it, except Miles.
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I'll see Saban's title before Miles', which will lead me to my assumption that Miles' success is due to Saban's success
I prefer LSU's 2007 uncontested title. Saban? He didn't sign Richard Dickson, JoJo Lafell or Ricky Jean-Francois. That's 3 TDs & a Defensive MVP in the BCS NC game.
Posted on 10/16/09 at 1:34 am to Sammich
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But for some reason None achieved it, except Miles.
Maybe that reason is that no one else was coaching LSU...
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I prefer LSU's 2007 uncontested title. Saban? He didn't sign Richard Dickson, JoJo Lafell or Ricky Jean-Francois. That's 3 TDs & a Defensive MVP in the BCS NC game.
Our 2003 title is only contested by idiots. And while he didn't sign them, they were high on LSU because of him. He does get about 50% of the credit for getting them to put on an LSU uniform. Give Miles credit for the development, but give respect where it's due.
No comment to the RJF remark.
Posted on 10/16/09 at 1:45 am to chilge1
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Maybe that reason is that no one else was coaching LSU...
Who was coaching the 2004 team? Was it devoid of talent?
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Our 2003 title is only contested by idiots. And while he didn't sign them, they were high on LSU because of him.
Oh my..
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Our 2003 title is only contested by idiots.
Regardless, LSU & USC Share the 2003 title. AP & Coches poll split, back when the AP was part of the BCS.
For anyone: Do an experiment: Google - 2003 College Football National Championship
Why does it come up USC?
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