re: Top 5 programs next 3 years

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seriously, they are in a bigger market for media

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this.


its not that I hate Miles or think he's a bum, I just think Skip took the cheap way out and there are coaches that are better than him. I don't see why people get their panties in a bundle.

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seriously, they are in a bigger market for media

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That's why I think were headed for a Florida/USC matchup in the MNC. The whole East Coast/West Coast thing, plus they can't can't resist Tebow.

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I'd say 9-3 after the fallout from the loss of 2003's talent is good, at least.

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I thought it was a very poorly coached team. OSU's Alexis Serna missing 3 PATs?

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Are you going to say that the coach who initially recruits high school players has absolutely no role in deciding where those players play college football if he is no longer with the team on signing day?

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Glenn Dorsey put it nivcely IMO, after he signed with the Chiefs: (Not verbatim) "I just live a few miles away in Gonzales. Where the hell did you think I was going to go to college? I spent 1 year under Saban & 3 years under Miles. Both are good coaches. All this Saban vs. Miles stuff in the media is just funny to us players."

We should we red shirt enough players to keep them around long enough

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But Miles isn't a good coach. You are seeing now and will continue to see that he isn't a good coach. Saban stacked the program with guys who were ridiculously talented and didn't overly frick up team chemistry. Without Saban, a lot of those guys aren't at LSU, so whether you want to call it sustaining or not, you have to give partial credit to him for that success because those guys were wearing an LSU uniform because of Saban.

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I call Bull shite on this. The only thing Saban contributed to the 2005-present team is basically recruiting. Any prestige falls into recruiting. The fact that Miles has recruited as well and did the main thing Saban did in recruiting(lock down the state) totally throws out the idea that things have been different between 2005-present. Miles has been the guy leading us through the NC, top 5 finishes, and the rough season. A major thing that completely fricked LSU was the coaching transition and RP. The dumb DC shite last year was the only big thing in his control. He had a lot of very young players coming in and we didn't have much of a 2005 class. Miles took RP like 99% of the others coaches would have and RP fricked our QB system. He was going to scare away other huge QB recruits because he was talented and young. We invested in him then he was gone after he was expected to be the future QB for two years.

Saban lucked out big time because of dumb arse people giving him credit for shite that he didn't do. He got so much credit for LSU 2005-2007 it is ridiculous. It basically allowed him to bring hype easily to his recruiting. It was like giving help to someone who didn't even need it.

LSU is also #2 in recruiting at the moment. If they land Lache I would assume that is at least where it will finish.

LSU is a top 5 program and has a good coach. You can't criticize him for the bad season and not praise him for the good. If you believe LSU was winning on talent alone it is still there so it should continue.

florida still has talent

You know what's truly funny? Everyone on this thread that is saying that LSU is either this or that as for as a top program goes in College Football are the same ones that have been putting down on the Tigers since this year began so therefore I do not take much solice in that this thread is any proof that LSU is a top tier program. I believe to be a top tier program said program would have a Head Coach that all the other programs want or would have on their wish list and reading this board you would be hard pressed in thinking that Les Miles is on any wish list.

So let's get all of our energy back on this team for the second half of this year and let's help prove to the rest of the nation that LSU is truly proving of a top teir program and that we back our Coach and Team so that when the time comes to search for a new head man that it will not be to hard to attract a great Coach. Remember it's fan base helps to recruit a great Coach as much as it's ability to recruit. To me that is what makes LSU a top teir program in and of itself.

I say

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but, the question you have to ask yourself is, "does the program look like its going to maintain that steady course?". I don't believe so.

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So, do you think that firing Miles and taking your chances on "the next guy" is the right way to go? There are a bunch of things to consider when even contemplating this. How would it affect recruiting, at least in the short run? How would the players (many highly touted) who were recruited by the current staff respond to this? Unless a program is really suffering, you are almost always going to experience a dropoff, at least in the first 1-2 years, when there are changes at the HC position. The LSU football program is far from suffering right now. Just some thoughts.

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I have Oklahoma over Miami because I think OU will outrecruit Miami and how long will Miami stay off of probation? If the past is any gauge, not long!

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since you seem to have so much time on your hands, compare the arrest record between miami and lsu the past 10 years, i will wait as i already know the answer. while you are at it do the graduation rates too

do you even know why miami was on probabtion? yeah i know crickets from you, you probably dont know.

did randy shannon take one of your old girlfriends or something? you seem to have it out for miami.

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Lately, Miami's loss of verbals has been pretty legendary. You might know one by the name of Patrick Peterson...was Patrick Johnson at that time. He was a Miami commit for months before defecting to LSU. He wasn't the only one that year. Miami has had more verbal renegs the last few years than anyone I can think of. We will see if it happens again but I think it will. Players seem to commit to them and then find something better.

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yeah you are right, mighty lsu never has verbal's change their minds, man you are comical.

i remember on this very board last year some of you wanting to actually harm someone for switching, man you are too easy and i usually dont even get into these debates.

and i guess you do have a hard on for miami since you stated you keep up with the program so much.

how do oyu know how many people have left if you did not?

its fine though we can use the bandwagon fans


great thread idea by the way to the OP