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re: Tigers have reached the 40-win mark for the 7th time in coach Paul Mainieri's 9
Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:01 am to goatman1419
Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:01 am to goatman1419
quote:Geauxrilla ball is gone, bruh. There haven't been ANY "intimidating" teams out there for years.
I'm saying as LSU Baseball and our current streak of post season blunders do we intimidate teams that play us as a TEAM??
Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:29 am to ell_13
LSU Under Mainieri (8 seasons)
SEC Tourney Only: 22-4 (.846)
NCAA Tourney Only: 28-12 (.700)
Total Postseason: 50-16 (.758)
2 SEC Champs, 5 SEC Tourney Champs, 6 NCAA Tourney appearances, 3 CWS apps, 1 National Title
Vanderbilt under Corbin (12 seasons)
SEC Tourney Only: 29-15 (.659)
NCAA Tourney Only: 39-23 (.629)
Total Postseason: 68-38 (.642)
3 SEC Champs, 1 SEC Tourney Champs, 10 NCAA tourney appearances, 2 CWS apps, 1 National Title
Since many, including myself, consider Tim Corbin to be one of the top coaches in the country and Vandy is fresh off their National Title, this seems like a fair comparison.
SEC Tourney Only: 22-4 (.846)
NCAA Tourney Only: 28-12 (.700)
Total Postseason: 50-16 (.758)
2 SEC Champs, 5 SEC Tourney Champs, 6 NCAA Tourney appearances, 3 CWS apps, 1 National Title
Vanderbilt under Corbin (12 seasons)
SEC Tourney Only: 29-15 (.659)
NCAA Tourney Only: 39-23 (.629)
Total Postseason: 68-38 (.642)
3 SEC Champs, 1 SEC Tourney Champs, 10 NCAA tourney appearances, 2 CWS apps, 1 National Title
Since many, including myself, consider Tim Corbin to be one of the top coaches in the country and Vandy is fresh off their National Title, this seems like a fair comparison.
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 11:29 am
Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:34 am to AstroTiger
So looking at your numbers I can make the assumption that if we make the tourney (which we will) that we have a 50% chance of making it to the CWS. Once at the CWS we have a .333 chance of winning it all (until we do win in and it changes to 50% of winning it).
Sound correct?
Sound correct?
Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:39 am to ell_13
quote:
Geauxrilla ball is gone, bruh. There haven't been ANY "intimidating" teams out there for years.
Maybe....but I still think opposing teams are still somewhat intimidated by a compilation of the box/our fans/the team/the legacy of LSU. Now, maybe that intimidation wears off by Saturday night or Sunday afternoon (Fri/Sat nowadays) and we lose a game....but still.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:40 am to AstroTiger
quote:
Corbin
You want to talk about someone that has squandered some talent.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:51 am to ell_13
Come on Ell this will help
2014-Last Regional to lower seed
2013-CWS 2 and done
2012 Lost Super to lower seed
2011 No post season
2010 Lost in regional to lower seed
That resume should intimidate anyone?? Hell I'd want to play LSU as a lower seed.
2014-Last Regional to lower seed
2013-CWS 2 and done
2012 Lost Super to lower seed
2011 No post season
2010 Lost in regional to lower seed
That resume should intimidate anyone?? Hell I'd want to play LSU as a lower seed.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:53 am to goatman1419
Thanks for the recap of the last 5 years.
I'm sure our opponents look at our results from 2010 when sizing us up and scouting.
I'm sure our opponents look at our results from 2010 when sizing us up and scouting.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:57 am to goatman1419
quote:We weren't good. Lost too much
2010 Lost in regional to lower seed
quote:Shafted. But we weren't good. New bats killed us.
2011 No post season
quote:Good again. But still adjusting our team to fit new style of play. Caught in between. Young good pitching. Defense was terrible in the OF. Katz played CF a few games late. We were not better than SB.
2012 Lost Super to lower seed
quote:Was our year. Had the pitching. Had the hitting. But PM's first visit to TDA was a disaster. Poor Raph and Bregman.
2013-CWS 2 and done
quote:Again, lost too much from 2013. We were a super team, but nothing more on paper. Got hot late while other teams fell apart. Lucky to get a top 8 seed.
2014-Last Regional to lower seed
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 10:58 am
Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:59 am to bfniii
quote:Are you referring to goatman? Because if you are, hahahahahahahahaha
and the other people who have said something similar in this thread? Are they delusional too? Or is it you?
Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:20 am to goatman1419
quote:
Pawl has accomplished way less than Miles
that's actually debatable. Or does his record prior to LSU not count for anything? Even at LSU, Mainieri has an equal number of conference titles (not even counting SECT titles) and national titles as Les. If you throw in his numbers at Notre Dame, Mainieri has 6 conference regular seasons titles, 10 tournament titles, 4 CWS appearances, and 3 national coach of the year awards. He set an LSU record for wins in a season. Mainieri also had to build back up a program, while Miles had to maintain one 2 years removed from a national championship and a stacked roster. So when you say he's accomplished WAY less than Miles, you're either ignorant or intentionally exaggerating for effect. And if you want to say SEC football is more competitive than SEC baseball, I'll just tell you you're wrong because it's not.
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 11:22 am
Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:45 am to AstroTiger
Tim Corbin (who was one several coaches who turned down the LSU baseball HC job that PM had the balls to take, knowing full well he'd have to endure the sort of entitled and unreasonable fandom on full display in this thread) would have likely been run outta town by LSU fans before he could get a natty had he accepted the LSU job. Ditto the others (Tanner, Bianco, etc) who turned down the job as well.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:54 am to Ldrake53
So you really think these other guys turned down the job because they couldn't handle the "pressure cooker" that is LSU? Really??? GTFO!
Any coach that doesn't have the sack to take the reins here doesn't need to be here anyway.
Any coach that doesn't have the sack to take the reins here doesn't need to be here anyway.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:10 pm to RedTigerRulz
I am going to reply to you with civility assuming you must be new to LSU baseball.
Skip Bertman has probably given over a hundred interviews and in game comments commenting on the coaches who turned down the LSU coaching job because they couldn't handle the pressure. 100 may be understating it.
The Tiger Rant had lots of visitors from Vandy and Ole Miss laughing at LSU because we couldn't hire a coach. And the LSU salary was going to be almost twice what those guys were making at thier current jobs.
Only a Johnny come lately wouldn't know how hard it was for Skip to hire a baseball coach after Smoke was fired.
Skip Bertman has probably given over a hundred interviews and in game comments commenting on the coaches who turned down the LSU coaching job because they couldn't handle the pressure. 100 may be understating it.
The Tiger Rant had lots of visitors from Vandy and Ole Miss laughing at LSU because we couldn't hire a coach. And the LSU salary was going to be almost twice what those guys were making at thier current jobs.
Only a Johnny come lately wouldn't know how hard it was for Skip to hire a baseball coach after Smoke was fired.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:20 pm to RedTigerRulz
quote:
So you really think these other guys turned down the job because they couldn't handle the "pressure cooker" that is LSU? Really??? GTFO!
What's so ridiculous about this notion? No other program puts pressure on a coach to succeed like at LSU.
quote:
Any coach that doesn't have the sack to take the reins here doesn't need to be here anyway.
OK? They aren't here.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:54 pm to ell_13
quote:it was a simple question that you dodged. No team is going to have consistent fan support if they don't keep a winning product on the field. Therefore, attendance is NOT the return like you are trying to make it out to be. You have to have a good product first. Right now, lsu's postseason results over the last 5 years don't match the stature of the program nor that of 10 other programs.
Are we talking record or omaha now?
quote:you are doing everything you can to obfuscate a facile issue. Attendance is only 1 aspect of the program and it's not the 1 I'm primarily referring to.
You think we have an attendance problem?
quote:yes, trends are fluid. And I'm allowing for that. Mainieri brought lsu a title which is awesome. However my point all along has been that it is becoming a distant memory in comparison to the other 10 programs I listed. And yes, if he makes it this year then his situation is much more tenable, because it's a trend!
We can look at 6 years and it's different... we can look at 3 years and it's different... we can look at 9 years and it's different. You pick 5 because it suits your argument whereas all the others wouldn't.
quote:everyone seems to understand the analogy except for you. Did you read the thread? Perhaps you should do that before criticizing.
You really want us to be like KY fans?
Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:57 pm to TigerCub
quote:yes, their trend will take a turn south of lsu if that happens. As of now, even they have bragging rights over lsu. See my point? Kent st, cal, Texas tech, stony brook and Indiana have all made omaha as many times as mainieri over the last 5 seasons.
One of the schools you listed was Texas who, barring winning their conference tournament, is going to miss the NCAA Tournament entirely for the 3rd time in 4 seasons. Yeah that's the level we should aspire to be at.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:00 pm to AstroTiger
quote:this is impressive but overshadowed by his omaha performance lately, stony brook and Houston.
Total Postseason: 50-16 (.758)
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:07 pm to bfniii
quote:
As of now, even they have bragging rights over lsu.
You're kidding me right? If we had their record, you'd be on here posting about how Mainieri hadn't been to the Tournament 2 of the past 3 years. I guess as long as you make it to Omaha a few times you can be really bad those other couple of years. Got it.
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:13 pm to Ldrake53
quote:I hope you're not referring to me because my point is not unreasonable at all. Or do you think it's ok that lsu is at the forefront of basically every aspect of college baseball but has been outdone in omaha by 10 other programs over 5 years? To me, that's an objective disappointment
entitled and unreasonable fandom on full display in this thread
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:14 pm to ell_13
quote:all of your excuse making is proving my point that lsu has been superseded during that stretch. You're just dressing it up with loser talk
ell_13
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