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re: Tigers have reached the 40-win mark for the 7th time in coach Paul Mainieri's 9
Posted on 5/5/15 at 7:45 pm to lsu2006
Posted on 5/5/15 at 7:45 pm to lsu2006
quote:i'm not really concerned with any particular 5 year period. i'm concerned with the trend. i've already said that if i were in charge and mainieri doesn't make it this year, he's essentially on a 1 year audition to keep his job and after that he's year to year until the trend looks better. he starts getting extensions based on postseason performance. the better the trend, the longer the extension. i don't think that's unreasonable and it's been done by directors before.
How can we ensure we make it to Omaha the requisite amounts per 5 years to your liking?
if he makes it, he gets a reprieve because that would be twice in 3 years which is exceptional.
imo, if jones doesn't win 2 tourney games next season, he's got 1 year left to make a splash in the tourney. but, i wouldn't have hired him to begin with.
if miles doesn't win double digit games this year, he's on the hot seat. although i don't think it will matter because he's wrapping it up.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 8:14 pm to bfniii
quote:You are so fricking dense. Do you realize I already did this for you in the same post you responded to? I've said twice now that LSU does have the best in exposure and income. That you were just wrong about the facilities. Underneath Alex Box, LSU has a training room, a locker room, offices, and a game room with computers. Great stuff... so does Florida State. It's just as good. Many other fields have suites. Better stadiums have all seat backs... and berms... and indoor cages. It's not as unique as you seem to think it is.
no, you posted a childish emoticon when i stated that lsu's facilities are 2nd to none. if you disagree, name the schools that have better facilities than lsu. and while you're at it, include the combination of exposure, income, etc.
Is that enough? Do I have to repeat myself again?
quote:Why? Have you been to those parks? Both of them? Have you seen what USC, Arkansas, and Florida State have to offer? Because if you have, you would know that the stadium and facilities are at LEAST comparable if not better.
you are incorrect.
quote:Only thing different is indoor cages. Theirs are covered. So no side walls. They have everything else in an older park than ours.
based on what?
quote:You are either a troll or ignorant. I'll let you pick.
none of them better than lsu. pretty much none of them equal to lsu. essentially none equal to lsu in all factors.
quote:Nope. You didn't. But I'm trying to give you an out.
did i say that? no.
quote:You brought up facilities. Not me. So are you saying they are relevant or not?
this has nothing to do with the baseball being played on the field. good grief
I'll be specific for you. Facilities matter. Schools with better resources have an advantage. But LSU isn't alone. They were never alone. You act like they are the only school to have what they have. That's dumb. There's no other way to put it. You are dumb.
quote:Why can't you understand that the uncertainty of the draft is relevant? That while LSU can basically take their pick, players don't work out... players never make it here... and that has an effect. Again... dumb or ignorant? Your pick.
it's not an excuse for lsu not even making it to omaha like you are making it out to be
quote:LSU doesn't make it to Omaha for a number of reasons. The players have get and don't get obviously have an effect. Are you seriously saying that it doesn't?
you're trying to say that it's a reason why lsu sometimes doesn't make omaha. it's a dumb point.
quote:Wait... "make the tourney"? You mentioned Kentucky and championships. Are you changing your analogy? I don't blame you. LSU makes the NCAA tourney almost regularly. The committee went retarded in 2011. Even then, LSU only misses the tourney twice in the PM era.
the fact that elite basketball programs make a certain level of the tourney regularly is the analogy and it's a correct one.
quote:Will you pick a damn time frame? 10 years? 1 year? Or 5 years? Stick to one, dammit!
elite baseball teams should make omaha more often than lsu has the last 5 years. it's a facile point but i see you don't get it.
This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 5/5/15 at 8:24 pm to ell_13
My favorite part was where he essentially said we should be like more UK basketball fans, or "imagine what UK bball fans would say" or something along those lines. Aka the most arrogant, delusional and entitled fan base in all of sports.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 8:28 pm to lsu2006
I'd like to know what program over the last 5 or 10 years (not sure which time frame he'll pick) he thinks is "elite".
Posted on 5/5/15 at 8:33 pm to ell_13
quote:on the facilities issue, we'll have to agree to disagree. however, you're wrong. there is no school better and only a literal handful as good. besides, that's only 1 of the criteria i mentioned. altogether, the postseason results aren't matching the investment. it's pretty obvious actually.
ell_13
quote:name the school that has a better batting facility than lsu. it's pretty much none. and yes i've been in them. and that's only 1 slice of the pie as i've said.
indoor cages
quote:i haven't acted like that at all. it's your juvenile attempt to cover up your vacuous argument. all things considered, lsu should be 2nd to none on the field over a period of several years. that's called commensurate return on investment. lsu isn't getting it right now. at least 10 other schools are doing as good or better over the last 5 years. that's a disparity that needs to be explained by something more substantive than the mlb draft.
You act like they are the only school to have what they have
quote:why are 10 other schools able to weather that storm and lsu isn't?
Why can't you understand that the uncertainty of the draft is relevant?
quote:i didn't say that and you are again misquoting me. i said a certain level of the tourney and the point is correct.
Are you changing your analogy?
see here
honestly, you're making this harder than it is
Posted on 5/5/15 at 8:34 pm to lsu2006
quote:good grief. this topic has brought out all the mouth breathers. that's not what i said.
My favorite part was where he essentially said we should be like more UK basketball fans, or "imagine what UK bball fans would say" or something along those lines. Aka the most arrogant, delusional and entitled fan base in all of sports.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 8:35 pm to ell_13
quote:i listed them already. lsu isn't even in the top 10
I'd like to know what program over the last 5 or 10 years (not sure which time frame he'll pick) he thinks is "elite".
This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 5/5/15 at 8:41 pm to bfniii
quote:Return on investment? We lead the country in attendance. That's the return. Results on the field are important for that but we are one of the few schools that make money on baseball. Of course we're getting a great return on the investment.
that's called commensurate return on investment. lsu isn't getting it right now. at least 10 other schools are doing as good or better over the last 5 years. that's a disparity that needs to be explained by something more substantive than the mlb draft.
quote:What the hell are you talking about? What 10 schools have done a better over the PM era? Over the last 5 years even? I love how "5 years" leaves out the 2009 season... But if we go to Omaha this year, you are satisfied. One year either way. You are such a hack.
why are 10 other schools able to weather that storm and lsu isn't?
quote:You brought up Kentucky basketball and championships. As if a baseball team and the results have anything to do with basketball results when the dynamic is almost completely opposite. Why are you still defending the analogy? It's horrible and I hope you know it.
i didn't say that and you are again misquoting me.
This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 5/5/15 at 8:47 pm to bfniii
Well there was this:
I honestly don't feel the need to address how absurd a comparison/analogy it is that you're trying to make here.
quote:
Btw, ky fans are scoffing at the notion that the basketball equivalent of mainieri's last 5 seasons would be acceptable.
I honestly don't feel the need to address how absurd a comparison/analogy it is that you're trying to make here.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 8:54 pm to lsutigers1992
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They really weren't. Their sorry performance in Omaha is proof. Stony Brook had two pitchers left after Friday, and we let them them off the hook by swinging at every pitch that was in the vicinity of the strike zone and giving them 9-pitch innings. If we're patient and get to their bullpen, we win. That home run barrage in the 9th inning of Game 1 was the worst thing that happened to us because we started to believe we could hit any pitch out the park.
Yes they were. I can't remember off the top of my head but they had a lot of guys drafted off of that team. Good teams lose in Omaha all the time bra. You do realize the best team doesn't always win the national championship right? Stony Brook was good whether anyone wants to admit it or not
Posted on 5/6/15 at 4:57 am to Howyouluhdat
I'm curious to know who the perfect coach is out there that can deliver the results some people want.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 7:32 am to OneMoreTime
quote:
You are delusional.
That and I'm not quite sure he's ever watched a game of baseball in his life
Posted on 5/6/15 at 8:07 am to LSUTygerFan
quote:
is it game day yet?
No
Posted on 5/6/15 at 8:12 am to TigerCub
No midweek game and a series starting on Friday. I know it's finals week, but...
Posted on 5/6/15 at 8:22 am to CheerWhine
just more time for bickering
Posted on 5/6/15 at 8:49 am to ell_13
quote:what teams are going to consistently have great attendance with a consistently mediocre or bad record? The answer is none. People don't support a loser for very long. So, your comment about attendance being the return is misleading.
We lead the country in attendance. That's the return. Results on the field are important for that but we are one of the few schools that make money on baseball.
quote:I listed 10 schools who have been to Omaha at least twice and 3 that have been 3 times in the last 5 years.
What 10 schools have done a better over the PM era? Over the last 5 years even?
quote:I'm having trouble getting you to understand what a trend is.
I love how "5 years" leaves out the 2009 season... But if we go to Omaha this year, you are satisfied.
quote:I explained it and it's pretty straightforward. I'm sorry you don't understand it. The ky fans seemed to understand it so maybe it's just you.
As if a baseball team and the results have anything to do with basketball results when the dynamic is almost completely opposite.
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