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re: LSU is ranked 123 in passing yards so far
Posted on 9/27/15 at 4:06 pm to cheesesteak501
Posted on 9/27/15 at 4:06 pm to cheesesteak501
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Posted on 9/27/15 at 4:07 pm to cheesesteak501
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but we need to step that shite up
absolutely! forget this winning shite; let's set a goal to win the NC in passing yards. then, and only then can we feel like miles is a good coach.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 4:11 pm to Datbayoubengal
How do know the drops wouldn't be more than 3 or 4 if thrown more than 15 times.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 4:29 pm to LSU GrandDad
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absolutely! forget this winning shite; let's set a goal to win the NC in passing yards. then, and only then can we feel like miles is a good coach.
There you go GrandDad, now you're acting like a middle school girl with that response. No one is saying that kind of stupid stuff. We only want to have a viable passing game alternative for when great defenses stop LF. We need to be more balanced BEFORE we play great defenses.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 5:03 pm to LSU GrandDad
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absolutely! forget this winning shite; let's set a goal to win the NC in passing yards. then, and only then can we feel like miles is a good coach.
I gave you more credit than this pops.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 5:05 pm to Purplesx
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How are 5 star wr coming to LSU and more importantly what are coaches telling these kids in their living rooms about LSU and passing game? this is truly mind boggling.
Have never, ever understood this.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 5:10 pm to ApexTiger
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rris has big time talent...he needs to be set free...
I don't see it. I think he has improved on decision making and commanding the huddle, but he still makes some bad throws. But not every throw is going to be perfect. If the ball hits you in the hands, catch it. Diarse needs to catch those balls even if they are a little high. Wrs need to help the qb out.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 5:10 pm to RedTigerRulz
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Have never, ever understood this.
It's like it pisses so many of you morons off that lsu gets good talent because they don't run the plays you want them to. What the hell is wrong with many of you?
Lsu keeps putting those talented skill players in the nfl. That's why they keep coming. Sry that hurts your feelings. It's like yall don't want them to come.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 5:11 pm to RedTigerRulz
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ve never, ever understood this.
pay attention on Sundays.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 5:16 pm to RummelTiger
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Why all you sunshine pumpers think LSU want to be Baylor is beyond me.
lol... Baylor is way better than that.
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How about just proving you can throw when you want to throw? How about that?
Well, maybe that's EXACTLY what they are doing.
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Why is this lost on sunshine pumpers?
What's up with the names? I never said you were a "negatiger" or any of that shite. My point is that the offense is ruuning along pretty well right now, regardless of the QB's stats.
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If you want a respectable average, how about 200+ ypg? We have some of the best WR talent in the country.
Sure, that would be great, but let's see how much more confident Harris can get.
There was no way that Les was going to start chucking the ball all over the field against MSU with it being Harris' first game of the year, on the road, against a good D.
They didn't need Harris to throw a lot against AU, as Leonard was taking care of the offense by breaking off big runs.
As for the Syracuse game, we had some horrible field position in the first half, and Les is not going to throw from that position when he has Fournette, so Fournette ran. It also does not help Harris' stats when Fournette keeps breaking off all of these long runs - Brandon has less field to work with.
Will Brandon get to 200 ypg - I hope so, but as long as LSU keeps running like they have been, and Harris keeps hitting passes when he needs to, and doesn't turn the ball over, then I don't know why more people can't be okay with that.
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Posted on 9/27/15 at 5:54 pm to RummelTiger
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What's up with the names? I never said you were a "negatiger" or any of that shite. My point is that the offense is ruuning along pretty well right now, regardless of the QB's stats.
I dont know what to call anyone on here anymore.
I assumed it meant those that were up in arms over passing game concerns. I didn't mean it as an insult.
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There was no way that Les was going to start chucking the ball all over the field against MSU with it being Harris' first game of the year, on the road, against a good D.
I didn't expect him to "chuck it all over the field". There's a difference between just trying to throw it, and throwing it in a favorable situation, at a favorable time to a receiver with an advantage.
Its not like Harris wasn't throwing it all Spring and Fall, and we know these boys practice on their own over the summer. So why didn't any of that practice get taken into consideration?
Either way, its fair on Moo St. game, and I wasn't concerned with that game, and if it wasn't for the history of Les Miles offensive game plans, I wouldn't be concerned this season either.
Look back to 2011 with Jarrett Lee and all the opportunities Les had to give him reps/practice/experience to build confidence, and he never ever let him loose even if they were up 30+ in the 2nd quarter. What is the risk in letting him throw it around to get in game experience for future games?
We will see what Les does against Eastern Michigan. I have great confidence that he will do exactly as he has done this season (80% run, 20% pass), and Harris will not be allowed to develop any fluidity in his dropbacks and timing with the WR's.
The running backs we know can run, we know we can run block, but why neglect developing a pass blocking ability? Its like choosing not to help yourself.
If the OL could gain more confidence w/ pass blocking, and Harris more confidence passing, then he can make quicker reads and get throws out quicker, thus eliminating the OL's need for extensive pass blocking. Its all related.
Pass blocking requires that the OL maintain his spot and contain his man.
Run blocking requires a huge push forward in one motion, and when the RB is gone by, then his job is done for that play.
Our OL need more practice at containing guys. If you continue to run run run for 20 straight plays, then expect them to adjust back for contain blocking assignments that need 10 secs worth of blocking for a play to develop, its going to cause issues no matter how good the OL is for the most part.
Notice we either run long arse routes, or screen pass, or its a running play.
So either the OL are having a quick burst push for 3 seconds and plays over, or they're having to contain block for a really long time.
Basically we go from one blocking extreme (quick thrust for run block) to the next (long containment block for pass).
Who knows maybe our OL have terrible feet (lateral movements) and they're weak with pass blocking, but they're great at forward pushes for run blocking.
This post was edited on 9/27/15 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 9/27/15 at 6:07 pm to cheesesteak501
A lot of people really believing that the running game will be enough from November and beyond are ignorant.
We're going to have to pass to beat Bama and Ole Miss and do well in Atlanta and the playoffs. Teams from there will have enough front 7 to limit the running game and shut LSU down if we don't have a passing game that defenses are forced to respect.
We're going to have to pass to beat Bama and Ole Miss and do well in Atlanta and the playoffs. Teams from there will have enough front 7 to limit the running game and shut LSU down if we don't have a passing game that defenses are forced to respect.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 6:13 pm to ApexTiger
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Frankly with this much talent all over the feild being 123rd in Pass rankings is an embarrassment. I am so sick of being so low for elite program
Then go cheer for Texas Tech. I've never seen a more ignorant fan base. You want a coach t ok go away from our strength just for the sake of doing it. It makes no sense. We have the best player in cfb and an oline built to pancake the shite out of defenses and you want to throw?
Posted on 9/27/15 at 6:18 pm to Tiger79
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Apex tiger Just preached the truth and you wieners don't want to hear it.
The truth if what? That he wants to pass for the sake of passing? NEWS FLASH Our running game can score from any place on the field. Get a clue.
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We need our receivers to catch more and make about 5 more passing attempts per game.
Yeah let's go away from our strength just for the sake of doing it.
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Those things wi keep Bama, and Rebels off balance.
You have no idea what you're talking about. These coaches and teams know what our bread and butter is. Do you know how ignorant it would be to try and throw all over bama when that isn't our strentgh? We did just fine last year with a qb that's half as efficient as Harris. Our game plan to beat both teams last year was solid.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 6:20 pm to Purplesx
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How are 5 star wr coming to LSU and more importantly what are coaches telling these kids in their living rooms about LSU and passing game
Come learn a prostyle offense from an Offensive Coordinator that has coached some of the best nfl qbs playing right now.
Come and learn a prostyle passing tree,learn to block, and develop great route running. You know the things that make an elite nfl wr?
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this is truly mind boggling.
Only to the football ignorant.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 6:20 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Then go cheer for Texas Tech
you do realize people are asking for a very conservative passing game, right? why are you going all the way to one extreme?
do you honestly think we're "texas tech" if we throw for 150-200 a game? that still puts us in the mid-90s by the end of the year
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You want a coach t ok go away from our strength just for the sake of doing it.
developing the phase of the game is not "just for the sake of doing it"
we will face teams who will put up points on or D
we will face teams who can stop/slow our rushing game
if we are not ready to pass to win, we will lose
did you miss the end of 2011? we barely beat bama, had to have STs bail us out against UGA, and then were dominated by bama
why? we thought we could just line up and run over them
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We have the best player in cfb and an oline built to pancake the shite out of defenses and you want to throw?
do you think we can win all of our games by running 3/4 of the time every game?
Posted on 9/27/15 at 6:23 pm to cheesesteak501
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Navy,Army and Air Force are the schools with less passing yards than us.
We run to set up the run. That's our MO.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 6:24 pm to Rickdaddy4188
The ball will be in the air more as the season progresses..we need to continue to work on blitz pick ups and drops
Posted on 9/27/15 at 6:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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you do realize people are asking for a very conservative passing game, right? why are you going all the way to one extreme?
Because he clearly isn't satisfied watching our qb throw for 150 and pick up 1st downs with his legs.
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do you honestly think we're "texas tech" if we throw for 150-200 a game?
We just did throw for 150. It's not like we aren't calling passing plays. If we take away penalties and drops (yes I know every team has drops) our qb has decent stats.
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developing the phase of the game is not "just for the sake of doing it"
Except yes it is when you're rb is averaging 11 yards per carry and your oline' s pass protection is slightly above average, at best.
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we will face teams who can stop/slow our rushing game
Who? They couldn't last year and we had the worst passing efficiency I've ever seen at lsu.
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did you miss the end of 2011? we barely beat bama, had to have STs bail us out against UGA, and then were dominated by bama
No defense in cfb is close to that 2011 bama defense and we ran for 207 yards (5.9 yards per carry) against UGA in 2011. Yes our 1st half was bad but the 2nd half we took their manhood.
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do you think we can win all of our games by running 3/4 of the time every game
Yes as long as our passing is efficient. If Harris can average 120 yards passin,65%completion and pick up 1st downs with his legs,we will be very hard to beat.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 6:37 pm to cheesesteak501
The thing to remember is that yardage-wise, the passing game reinforces itself...by that I mean that less time is taken off of the closk, more plays are ran with more yardage by teams using more passing than running.
This also taxes your defense a lot more.
Miles runs a lot to rest our defense more. This is smart since we are very talented but not too deep in our Front 7.
This also taxes your defense a lot more.
Miles runs a lot to rest our defense more. This is smart since we are very talented but not too deep in our Front 7.
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