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re: LSU Disrespected (A Compilation)

Posted on 12/9/11 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by flyingtiger
San Antonio, TX
Member since Jun 2005
451 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 2:14 pm to
Do any of you remember the talk leading up to the 2007 BCS Championship? There was not a single person on ESPN that picked LSU...all picked Ohio St. Of course we went on to spank their weak asses. It will be no different this time. Les will have the boys ready to play...no doubt in my mind.
Posted by bastropbham
Birmingham, Al
Member since Nov 2008
604 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

Said more than once that Bama "left some points on the field", whatever the frick that means


What he means is that Saban made the decision to attempt field goals of 44,49,50, & 52 yards as opposed to punting and playing defense. Then he thru his kickers under the bus for not making (as Lou Holtz said, and i'm almost sure i noted sarcasm in his voice) little ole field goals. And they through an interception, which could never happen cause LSU's secondary is so overrated.

That's what i think Mark Mays meant
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 2:41 pm to
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How dare these guys have an opinion that is different than yours


Who won the game on November 5th is not a matter of opinion, except in Tuscaloosa and on ESPN.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

frick what all the talking heads say and think. They have as much insight on this as we do.


I'll bet they don't. In a test of knowledge of football in general and LSU and Alabama football in particular, you can have any talking head on ESPN and I will take a random poster on TD.com, and I bet you I will win eight out of ten times.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 2:43 pm to
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who said that? I haven't heard anyone say that.


Living under a rock for the past month?
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13467 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 2:44 pm to
Congratulations to the Tide!

According to this roundtable of the washed-up & delusional (I'll let everyone decide who is who),

THEY ARE 13-0!!!!!







LSU 27-17.


FIN
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7636 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 2:45 pm to
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Yes. Meaningful for LSU fans.

If Bama wins on 9 Jan, the LSU SEC championship will mean absolutely nothing to everybody except LSU fans.

What value is a conference championship when your big rival in your conference division is sporting the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP ring and trophy? Answer: not much, except to maybe LSU fans.

So, here is my main point, and it relates directly to the title of this thread. Based on all that has occurred, the truth is that LSU won nothing on 5 Nov 11. That game meant absolutely nothing.


Again, this is just plain wrong-headed. Let's take a longer view. LSU has another SEC championship, had an undefeated regular season, cements Miles as the best coach in LSU history and this team as one of the best in LSU history.

As for whom it is meaningful, I am LSU fan. I really am not as concerned what ESPN talking heads say or even fans of other schools. In few years not one soul will remember anything that ESPN talking heads said, or what a bunch of fans posted on the internet. What will remain is an incredible, record setting season with an SEC championship, something that both teams, LSU and Alabama play for and want to win.

You are being far too short-sighted in your evaluation. Your main point is simply wrong. Is it important to win the NC? Of course. That does not change the fact that the Nov. 5 has enormous significance, regardless of Jan. 9.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 2:48 pm to
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nothing in it that verifies your claim


"Alabama is a better team" = LSU did not win on Nov. 5th

"Alabama outplayed LSU" = LSU did not win on Nov. 5th

"Alabama left points on the field" = LSU did not win on Nov. 5th

"Alabama beat themselves against LSU" = LSU did not win on Nov. 5th

No matter what cutesy way you gumps and your whores on ESPN try to say it, you're all really saying the same thing. And, being the gumps you are, you're wrong as always.
This post was edited on 12/9/11 at 2:49 pm
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 2:50 pm to
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Saying "LSU did not beat us" and then saying "We lost that game" is NOT saying that LSU didn't win


BULL frickING shite
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48425 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 3:20 pm to
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As for whom it is meaningful, I am LSU fan.


That's my point. You are an LSU fan. For you, 5 Nov was meaningful.

However, the powers that be rendered 5 Nov insignificant by putting Bama in the 9 Jan game.
They granted Bama a re-do, effectively rendering the 5 Nov game meaningless with regard to the National Championship.

The 5 Nov game result had no influence on who would play for the NC, because Bama is playing for the NC despite 5 Nov.

As such, with regard to the NC and the CFB public at large, LSU did not win anything on 5 Nov. In other words, LSU proved nothing on 5 Nov. They didn't prove that they were better than Bama. They didn't prove that Bama did not deserve a re-do.

Of course, LSU fans will value the SEC Championship for 2011, but, the CFB public at large today and for all time forward will be talking about the National Champion for 2011.

If Bama wins on 9 Jan, the 2011 SEC Championship will be worthless to all but LSU fans, players and coaches.

PS I realize that I'm sort of talking about a topic that is not directly on point with the thread title. The point of the thread title is accurate. With other than LSU fans, there is a perception or meme that "LSU really did not win on 5 Nov." This is precisely the reason why the CFB powers that be gave Bama the re-do, thus erasing the significance of 5 Nov.

Because Bama is in the SEC, a Bama win also erases the significance of winning the 2011 SEC Championship, except in the eyes of LSU people.

I don't like the fact that the CFB powers that be show such disrespect for LSU's win on 5 Nov and LSU's 2011 SEC Championship, but, there's nothing we can do about it.
This post was edited on 12/9/11 at 3:27 pm
Posted by ultratiger89
Houston, Tx
Member since Aug 2007
3040 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

BULL frickING shite


you suck at interpreting the English language
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50350 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 3:35 pm to
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PS I realize that I'm sort of talking about a topic that is not directly on point with the thread title. The point of the thread title is accurate. With other than LSU fans, there is a perception or meme that "LSU really did not win on 5 Nov." This is precisely the reason why the CFB powers that be gave Bama the re-do, thus erasing the significance of 5 Nov.


I can't stress enough that Champagne gets it. Good job.

Champagne, did you see my "know your place" thread? If you haven't, you would like it. If you did, my apologies. A lot of posters responded, but I don't remember who.
Posted by rileytiger
In Hamster Cage Running on Wheel
Member since Feb 2007
2030 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 3:47 pm to
Great this means we are still the underdogs with something to proove.
Posted by oilfieldtiger
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Dec 2003
2904 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 3:59 pm to
this random drunk at the bar after my company christmas party was running his meat smoker w/ this foolishness, and people were agreeing w/ him!

there's a line from the Dan Jenkins book Semi-Tough that i like to drag out at moments like this "What could have happened, DID." Bama couldn't get closer, Saban chose to kick from beyond his kicker's reliable range, and LSU won. all stats eventually lead to that truth.

this reminds me so much of the UGA rematch in 2003. right down to the missed field goals in the first game. except for the fact that UGA actually earned their way into the SECCG.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48425 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

Champagne, did you see my "know your place" thread? If you haven't, you would like it. If you did, my apologies. A lot of posters responded, but I don't remember who.


Yes, I agree with your points made in that thread. I would add only this, the media loves Saban a great deal. The template is that he is the best coach in CFB and that Les Miles is goofy. Even if LSU wins on 9 Jan, I doubt that the media template with regard to these two coaches changes. The media will never stop loving Nick Saban, because, his hair is too good, and, the ladies think he's handsome.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22782 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 4:14 pm to
I am pretty sure Les Miles said we didn't win anything Nov. 5th. We did however advance to the SEC championship because of it and that is what Les Miles was talking about.

We won the SEC championship against Georgia so the Nov. 5th game didn't win us anything but we did win the SEC because of it and Alabama didn't because of it.

Also we are in the NC game in part because of that win. Those are the facts.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48425 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

this random drunk at the bar after my company christmas party was running his meat smoker w/ this foolishness, and people were agreeing w/ him!



By the time 9 Jan rolls around, the entire country, except for LSU fans, will tell you that LSU did not really beat Bama on 5 Nov. The reason for that is because the mediea amplification of that meme will be overwhelming and repeated very often. That meme will be drummed into everybody's head very thoroughly by 9 Jan. Hell, even some LSU fans may begin to believe it.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48425 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

Also we are in the NC game in part because of that win. Those are the facts.


All of that had great meaning and significance until the moment when the CFB powers that be put Bama in the big game for a re-do. LSU has to beat Bama twice in order to maintain the significance of what they won. Bama only has to beat LSU once in order to win all of the marbles and erase what LSU accomplished.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50350 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 4:27 pm to
Before the BCSNCG, I'm going to update my "know your place" thread with "The Rematch" as a topic.

Champagne, you will be quoted early and often in my rant.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260941 posts
Posted on 12/9/11 at 4:29 pm to
quote:


who said that? I haven't heard anyone say that.



Living under a rock for the past month?


There are plenty of articles that say just the opposite as well. What some media person in Bristol, L.A. or Birmingham things matters little anyway. Few picked LSU to beat Oregon.
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