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re: Let's hear from those complaining about the Miles "offensive philosophy"
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:07 am to NorthTiger
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:07 am to NorthTiger
when we run the ball like we were able to do saturday, you just wonder if we had just a reliable at best passing game, how much more dangerous we could be.
we've got the weapons, we've got backs who can catch and run, tight ends are showing signs of life. i like jennings throwing on the run, or get him in the pistol a little more. something to get him more comfortable.
we've got the weapons, we've got backs who can catch and run, tight ends are showing signs of life. i like jennings throwing on the run, or get him in the pistol a little more. something to get him more comfortable.
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:36 am to tjtiger9
quote:you want lsu to recruit 1 star players?
why do we continue to recruit 4 and 5 star QBs and WRs
quote:good grief. if this isn't happening, how is lsu winning so many games against good teams? how do you think things should be different?
not use to the best of their ability
quote:players come to lsu because they know they have a good chance of 1. winning 2. going to the nfl. for example, someone posted that all of lsu's starting wr's from '11 to '13 are in the nfl. this seems counterintuitive since lsu is run heavy. one big reason is because they learn how to block which is valued in the nfl. it seems like you're not considering this.
I were a 4 or 5 star athlete, I would really have to take into consideration how the current crop of athletes recruited the last couple of years are being "used".
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:39 am to WalkingTurtles
quote:here's where the problem begins. overall, lsu is winning more than anyone else. why borrow trouble?
What happens if
quote:I can't believe the coaches haven't thought of this. you're a genius
he needs to make reads and progressions and take off if nothing is there
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:44 am to TheWalrus
quote:no because there were 4 turnovers. you don't think that's going to happen ever game do you? other than the turnovers, the offense was pretty impressive against a very solid defense
Because the defense played absolutely out of its mind to keep LSU in it
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:48 am to FearTheValley
quote:this is the myopia I've been pointing out. negas incessantly focus on one player or an individual play call instead of noticing that lsu is winning tons of games in the toughest conference. it's been going on since '08.
'Tis no insult to point out legitimate problems.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:56 am to AlwysATgr
quote:my gosh. the guy is second only to saban since that time and this crap is still getting posted. he's appeared in a ncg since then!
Les still needs to put the ghosts of '08 behind him
quote:those 2 teams were better than lsu at that time. lsu is continuing to improve which once again shows that miles can overcome difficulties such as all of the early departures.
he needs to be criticized for the non-competitive slop we saw vs State and Auburn. What was the game plan there?
quote:it's like no one reads my posts. if what you're saying is true, then the sec isn't the toughest conference.
We didn't win last night because of his offensive philosophy, but in spite of it.
read this
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:03 am to TigerFan55555
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But you are smoking some serious crack if you believe that you dont have to throw the ball to win games,
Throwing the ball is not our strength at this time. Our 2 QB in conference play are completing like 45% of their throws and have 5 TDs and 4 ints.
I understand the balance O concept and the want to throw the ball more, but I don't believe going more to our weakness is a wise play at this time.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:04 am to dreaux
Dreaux great post. , not many positive posts comes out of baton rouge !
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:11 am to Tiger_n_ATL
LSU has a great coach I just wish it didn't have rantards !
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:13 am to jbrau22
quote:only if you have those players in those situations against those opponents.
I think last year's offense is what we aim for every year
we had an advantage against ole miss between the tackles. miles took advantage of it and now negas are complaining about the passing. if miles had worked in more passes, the negas would complain that miles didn't take advantage of lsu's strength against the rebs.
negas just can't be satisfied.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:13 am to tenderfoot tigah
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Posted by tenderfoot tigah
We won in spite of the offense not because of the offense.
Against Ole miss?
LSU moved the ball very consistently.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:15 am to AlwysATgr
quote:this is just a restated version of "we should have won more" that I have addressed multiple times in multiple threads. yet, it never dies
Point being the ultra-conservative approach has cost us.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:20 am to Hooligan's Ghost
quote:how many yards did mett pass for?
still think that Miles has little faith in the forward pass
quote:you must not like winning
still don't like all of the play calling
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:28 am to NorthTiger
Funny shite to see the Les bashers so silent this week! 
Crying babies for a month but now suddenly they run away with their tail between their legs.
Crying babies for a month but now suddenly they run away with their tail between their legs.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:29 am to NorthTiger
That philosophy works when the defense plays outstanding football and allows the offense time to wear the opponent down and/or make a big play. LSU's defense did just that Saturday night. The problem is that it (probably unnecessarily) puts a ton of pressure on the defense to not just be good, but be perfect, and makes many games (some probably unnecessarily) rest on a razor's edge in the 4th.
The frustrating part is that when LSU has been behind and forced to open up the passing game they have generally delivered. See ('10 Bama; '10 UT; '10 UF; '12 Bama; '12 OM; '13 Ark; '14 Wisc.; '14 UF). It begs the question as to why with so much talent at the WR spot does LSU wait until they are backed into a corner to rely on the passing game? LSU has been great in the 4th under Les. But it also makes you ask if LSU would open things up a bit more in quarters 1-3, would they have to be so good (and sometimes lucky) in the 4th?
The frustrating part is that when LSU has been behind and forced to open up the passing game they have generally delivered. See ('10 Bama; '10 UT; '10 UF; '12 Bama; '12 OM; '13 Ark; '14 Wisc.; '14 UF). It begs the question as to why with so much talent at the WR spot does LSU wait until they are backed into a corner to rely on the passing game? LSU has been great in the 4th under Les. But it also makes you ask if LSU would open things up a bit more in quarters 1-3, would they have to be so good (and sometimes lucky) in the 4th?
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:49 am to TheWalrus
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quote:
We won on a 95 yd touchdown drive.
Because the defense played absolutely out of its mind to keep LSU in it. Not a single person would be happy about the offense if the score was 21-10.
I'm not saying the defense didn't play great, they have been awesome the past 3 weeks.
But to say we won in spite of our offense that finished out with a 13 play touchdown drive covering the entire field is a bit overboard.
I'd say it is more accurate that we won in spite of offensive mistakes, but as a whole, to gain 5.7 yrds/play against a team allowing 4.1 before, and 406 yds when allowing 290/game, is pretty good.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 11:01 am to arcalades
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We need balance. Not 75% running and not 75% passing
We do need balance, but not in the sense of equalizing the number of rushing and pass attempts. The balance we need is equal ABILITY to run and pass. Obviously there will be some games when we'll want to run more (such as Ole Miss, who defends the pass very well but is less effective against the run) and others when we'll want to pass more (such as Miss. St. which is great against the run but suspect against the pass).
Posted on 10/27/14 at 11:16 am to theknightswhosay
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He's throwing for more yards every week and becoming more efficient. It might have been nice to have brought Lee along at the same pace, because what we did with him didn't work out so great.
What we did with Lee in '08 was have one of the worst defenses in our history so that bringing him along at the same pace meant we were down two or three scores in the first 15-20 minutes of the game.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 11:16 am to NorthTiger
quote:
How did that work for us?
10 points
and 10 points doesn't win most football games. going to have to score more points going forward.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 11:18 am to bfniii
quote:
you want lsu to recruit 1 star players?
Did I say that?
quote:
good grief. if this isn't happening, how is lsu winning so many games against good teams? how do you think things should be different?
Are we throwing the ball? How do you feel when we are in third and long, confident we going to pick it up?
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players come to lsu because they know they have a good chance of 1. winning 2. going to the nfl. for example, someone posted that all of lsu's starting wr's from '11 to '13 are in the nfl. this seems counterintuitive since lsu is run heavy. one big reason is because they learn how to block which is valued in the nfl. it seems like you're not considering this
So then why are there so many WRs in the NFL that actuallly had good receiving college years and still learned how to block? 11-13, you are also talking of Mettenberger years for 2 of them and the other was Lee throwing the ball until Miles had a brain farct the last third of the season
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