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re: Les Miles was a good manager.

Posted on 4/15/22 at 2:46 pm to
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5657 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 2:46 pm to
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but we'll never know for sure, will we?

It's the last game of the season, for the National Championship.

No sense holding anything back. Our offense was utterly ineffective, so ANY COMPETENT COACH would've tried something (ANYTHING!) different, just to see if it could light a spark.

Remember when Saban benched Jalen Hurts at halftime of the National Championship game against UGA and inserted a true freshman at QB. It worked, because Tua led them back to win that game.

That's what good coaches do.
For Bama, the problem was the QB. Jalen Hurts' completion percentage was less than 40% and his QB rating was less than 60 when Tua replaced him. Hurts was awful; he needed to be replaced.

For LSU, the problem was not the QB. The problem was the offensive line. At halftime of the BCSCG, Jefferson had completed 85.71% of his passes, and he had a QB Rating of 116.91. He was not the problem.

At the end of the third quarter of the BCSCG, Jefferson had completed 76.92% of his passes, and he had a QB efficiency rating of 97.08. So Miles could stick with a QB known for his leading his team to comeback victories . . .

Or Miles could turn to Lee:

In the 2008 game against Alabama, Lee had a QB Rating of 69.13 and a completion percentage of 38.24%.
In the 2009 game against Alabama, Lee had a QB Rating of 56.96 and a completion percentage of 40.00%.
In the 2010 game against Alabama, Lee had a QB Rating of 137.54 and a completion percentage of 57.14%.
In the 2011 game against Alabama, Lee had a QB Rating of 14.52 and a completion percentage of 42.19%.

Comparing Lee's QB Rating against Alabama to Jefferson's QB Rating against Alabama in the BCSCG, Lee had a higher QB Rating against Alabama only ONE time in Lee's entire career.

Comparing Lee's completion percentage against Alabama to Jefferson's completion percentage against Alabama in the BCSCG, Lee NEVER had a higher completion percentage against Alabama in Lee's entire career.

Miles can stick with a QB who is completing over 75% of his passes, or he can substitute Lee into the game.
Posted by kkv75
Member since Sep 2017
4890 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 2:48 pm to
Did you just wake up in 2016?
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18192 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 2:50 pm to
Salviati - that's a lot of stats, which I appreciate.

But sometimes, a change at QB can light a spark and change momentum, regardless of prior effectiveness.

We just needed to do something (ANYTHING) different to try to give us some energy, because what we were doing CLEARLY wasn't working.

But Les just drove the plane straight into the ground.
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
4619 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 3:01 pm to
Hello. frick you too. See how easy that was?
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5657 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 3:15 pm to
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We just needed to do something (ANYTHING) different to try to give us some energy, because what we were doing CLEARLY wasn't working.

But Les just drove the plane straight into the ground.
An old man, a boy, and a woman were on the deck of a boat during a storm. The woman fell into the water. The fall and the storm carried her a few yards from the boat. She couldn’t swim. The boy yelled that the old man had to throw something to the woman to save her. The old man had two choices: an ice chest and a full keg of beer.

The old man threw the ice chest to the woman. It didn’t seem to work immediately. However, the old man believed that the woman could struggle to use its buoyancy to stay afloat.

The boy yelled at the old man that the ice chest was not working. He screamed at the old man that he had to throw in something else. The old man responded that all he had left was the full keg of beer.

The boy shrieked, “You have to try. The ice chest is not working. Trying anything is better than nothing.”
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35509 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 3:17 pm to
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For LSU, the problem was not the QB. The problem was the offensive line. At halftime of the BCSCG, Jefferson had completed 85.71% of his passes, and he had a QB Rating of 116.91. He was not the problem.

At the end of the third quarter of the BCSCG, Jefferson had completed 76.92% of his passes, and he had a QB efficiency rating of 97.08. So Miles could stick with a QB known for his leading his team to comeback victories . . .
All of his passes were behind the line of scrimmage. You and I can throw a lot of completions like that. Alabama will give you those all day. Jefferson finished the game with a total of 53 yards passing.

On top of that he hogged the ball running it instead of giving it to a running back. He had more carries than the rest of the team COMBINED. Averaged 1.1 yard a carry.

Yes, JJ was the problem.
This post was edited on 4/15/22 at 3:22 pm
Posted by TigerScorpion
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2018
583 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 3:27 pm to
He should have thrown the boy in.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5657 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 4:02 pm to
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All of his passes were behind the line of scrimmage.
Really?!?!

If you're just going to post bullshite, I don't have time for you.

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Jefferson finished the game with a total of 53 yards passing.
LSU had only 39 yards rushing. Tell me again how Jefferson was the problem.

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On top of that he hogged the ball running it instead of giving it to a running back. He had more carries than the rest of the team COMBINED. Averaged 1.1 yard a carry.
You do know that sacks count as a carry, and the yards lost count as negative rushing yards.

I mean, you know that, right?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35509 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 4:23 pm to
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LSU had only 39 yards rushing. Tell me again how Jefferson was the problem.
Because Jefferson had 53 yards passing. And rushed more than anyone else even if you took out his 4 sacks, which are partially his fault too. Really sacks were a huge issue throughout his career.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18192 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 8:41 pm to
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The boy shrieked, “You have to try. The ice chest is not working. Trying anything is better than nothing.
great story, Sal. Completely on point. I’ve now completely changed my mind.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48682 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 9:42 pm to
LSU should have kept Les Miles on board to do exactly that job in the Football Building - MANAGER, i.e. Equipment Manager. I think that he could have done a marginal job as Equipment Manager, if we were to ignore his occasional flirting with pretty co=eds.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22467 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 9:45 pm to
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Would’ve won another championship if he started Jarrett Lee
Would have won zero had Nick Saban not come along…
This post was edited on 4/16/22 at 8:30 am
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22343 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 11:03 pm to
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At some point yall have to admit that maintaining some kind of standard for a decade in the golden era of the SEC is not something just any idiot could do.


Once tRantards get a idea going, the ignoramuses will just keep repeating nonsense no matter what actually happened.

The truth is that Les Miles put together the most successful decade of winning football in LSU history. LSU was in rare company as one of the elites for Miles' first 10 years.

1. Boise State — 113 wins
2. Ohio State — 110 wins
3. Alabama — 107 wins
4. Oregon — 106 wins
5. LSU — 103 wins

That's what Miles accomplished starting in 2005 through the next decade. And this is with Urban at Florida, Saban at Bama, and the SEC dominating college football like no conference ever had before.

It's pretty rare for a coach to have that much success without having a decline after more than a decade of domination. Les Miles is going to be a Hall of Fame coach.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 12:29 am to
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Gray Tiger


Was definitely involved in Les' sexual endeavors
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20660 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 1:18 am to
Les Miles was a good…era. Looking back at it, I don’t know if it was his management skills or coaching. But he had a Golden Horseshoe up his arse and it worked for the time. I had a good time. The Les years were incredible. I’ll always be grateful for him coming here…and…doing whatever the hell it was he did.
Posted by lsudave1
Baton Metairie
Member since Jan 2005
7602 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 3:09 am to
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The truth is that there wasn't a right decision at QB in that game.


There was a Zach Mettenberger who honestly should have started from day 1
Posted by craignettles
Member since Jan 2005
3289 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 8:48 am to
That is the same team , except for the freshmen class that lost 3 games with Saban! Including a blowout by Ga
Posted by NFLU
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2014
5785 posts
Posted on 4/16/22 at 10:41 am to
The most overrated coach of all-time.
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