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re: Joe Lunardi Bracketology 2/11/16
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:53 am to Kracka
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:53 am to Kracka
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aTm is a terrible matchup for LSU. atm should be easy favorites. -20 probably.
Doesnt matter, if we want to get into the tourney we need to prove we belong and beat some good teams.
Everyone says it is hard to get road wins in this conference, well lets prove that Saturday.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:55 am to TigerBait1127
I said they would come into play. But I think people on this board overestimate that. No one specifically says hey won't count but when they refer to Lsu as an 11-5 team, I think that is discounting those losses a lot more than anyone else will.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:56 am to More beer please
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Doesnt matter, if we want to get into the tourney we need to prove we belong and beat some good teams.
Everyone says it is hard to get road wins in this conference, well lets prove that Saturday.
I'd have to agree. We can't give out the perception that the 8-2 start was fool's gold.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:58 am to c on z
What I dont want to hear is that we were "supposed" to lose saturday so its ok, just because the spread says so.
After yesterday, a win saturday is imperative.
After yesterday, a win saturday is imperative.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:59 am to emmanuellewis
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Lsu's injuries are not an excuse for all of their losses
Yea, no crap..hence why I named 3 that we lost because of 2 players being out.
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You also can't say Lsu lost close games without also then looking at their close wins
What exactly does this mean? To me, it means if LSU would have been missing Hornsby and Victor, they would have lost. However, they weren't so they won. Thus, this goes to prove how important those guys are.
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They've won and lost close games
Yes, true. But if you don't realize that we lost 3 games by an average margin of .3 in regulation while missing 2 of our top 3 scorers...then you have no business arguing. We are not arguing whether LSU won or lost games, we're talking about the strength in which they did it. Committee members, national media pundits, the biggest names in the industry have ALL said it matters that LSU lost 4 games without Victor and Hornsby on the court...so why do LSU fans think it doesn't matter?
Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:01 am to LSUButt
We can talk about the record since we got all the players back. And you are right that our losses were all quality losses. But eventually, don't we have to beat someone to improve our resume? I think we have two quality wins right now (at home against UK and for the time being at Alabama; @ Vandy is on the cusp).
They need to sweep the rest of their home games and get at least one of @ UT or @ Ark. The UK game at Rupp is a guaranteed loss.
Let's wait and see. I'm just very disappointed it's coming down to the bubble again this year, when pre-season, many of us were thinking we'd be a lock and probably a top 8 seed.
They need to sweep the rest of their home games and get at least one of @ UT or @ Ark. The UK game at Rupp is a guaranteed loss.
Let's wait and see. I'm just very disappointed it's coming down to the bubble again this year, when pre-season, many of us were thinking we'd be a lock and probably a top 8 seed.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:06 am to LSU713
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They need to sweep the rest of their home games and get at least one of @ UT or @ Ark. The UK game at Rupp is a guaranteed loss.
I agree with all this. This would put us 13-5 in the SEC and we'd have wins against top 50 RPI's A&M and Bama. It would put our W/L as 4-5 vs top 50, which is WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY better than almost every other bubble team
Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:08 am to TigerBait1127
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You're super smart
Here we go again......
Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:08 am to emmanuellewis
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said they would come into play. But I think people on this board overestimate that.
Once again, watch the video and read where Joe has us.
They know more than you about how much it matters since they are the ones actually discussing it with committee members
Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:10 am to More beer please
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What I dont want to hear is that we were "supposed" to lose saturday so its ok, just because the spread says so.
After yesterday, a win saturday is imperative.
It is a big game. They needed a 1-1 week this week no matter how you got it. This team since the Wake game has bounced back from losses very well.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:10 am to Kracka
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Here we go again......
You just said A&M should be favored by 20, and in the road. They didn't even beat us by 20 at home...
Consistently idiotic apparently
This post was edited on 2/11/16 at 11:12 am
Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:12 am to LSUButt
Another reason this season has been particularly frustrating: we have one of the least intelligent basketball fanbases I have ever been around. There are a handful of posters who know the sport and have been posting about basketball for years, but most of these threads are made up of people taking extreme viewpoints one way or the other and not even reading other people's responses.
Facts: Lsu played a bad nonconference schedule and played terribly. They were missing victor and Hornsby for almost the entire stretch. Yes that will matter but not absolve their play. They have played much better in the sec and have some good wins (Kentucky, at vandy- who was also missing a key player). They have had close wins and close losses. Overall there are few marquee wins so far.
Facts: Lsu played a bad nonconference schedule and played terribly. They were missing victor and Hornsby for almost the entire stretch. Yes that will matter but not absolve their play. They have played much better in the sec and have some good wins (Kentucky, at vandy- who was also missing a key player). They have had close wins and close losses. Overall there are few marquee wins so far.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:14 am to emmanuellewis
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Another reason this season has been particularly frustrating: we have one of the least intelligent basketball fanbases I have ever been around. Th
Right? We have posters here creating arguments for others, i.e. you
Can you quote where 1 person has said that the non conference schedule doesn't count? We'd be shooting for a 4-5 seed right now if it didn't.
This post was edited on 2/11/16 at 11:15 am
Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:19 am to TigerBait1127
this team semi-quasi-kinda reminds me of that UK team from a couple years ago (or was it last year?) that beat wichita state in the 2nd round. don't think any top-3 seed is gonna want to see LSU on that 8-11 line
Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:21 am to emmanuellewis
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Facts: Lsu played a bad nonconference schedule and played terribly
Our non conference RPI was 118th...far from terrible considering all the "facts."
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at vandy- who was also missing a key player
What does that matter? You said missing players doesn't mean anything
Also, way to leave out @Bama who is #39 RPI
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They have had close wins
A win is a win
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Yes that will matter but not absolve their play
Who said it will absolve it? All I'm saying (and if you watch or research ANYTHING, you will find that many 'experts' are saying the same thing) is that LSU will be granted leeway for missing 2 of their top 3 scorers for 4 of their 9 losses. IT DOES MATTER
Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:21 am to TigerBait1127
For all of those out there that are a fan of Camp's Bracket @ Angelfire I have submitted it to Bracket Matrix. Just waiting to hear back. If you want to provide some input on our projections just let me know. Our goal at Camp's Bracket @ Angelfire is to get input from the experts of the TigerDroppings community. Hell we might even let bnfiii have a say in the bracket.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:23 am to Choupique19
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3-7 away from home
This is really what we need to work on. Last year road victories are what got us not only in, but as a higher seed.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:26 am to LSUButt
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LSU will be granted leeway for missing 2 of their top 3 scorers for 4 of their 9 losses. IT DOES MATTER
it matters more that Louisville and SMU can't make the tourney.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:30 am to S
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don't think any top-3 seed is gonna want to see LSU on that 8-11 line
Why wouldn't a top 3 seed like to play against a team that has a very porous defense, a tendency to get in foul trouble, can't shoot FTs, one that continually has mental lapses on offense and defense, and has a coach that yesterday, a Yahoo sports writer said (something like) wouldn't trust to coach the original Dream Team to a Gold Medal.
I kid...sort of.
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