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re: Jefferson threw five 200+ yard passing games in 2009.

Posted on 9/25/10 at 7:41 am to
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 9/25/10 at 7:41 am to
I'm too busy getting ready to tailgate to argue with you. You are a joke. I never bashed JJ. I guess we can't express opinions unless we agree with you or it's "bashing". Furthermore no one here is attacking him personally, it's part of being a quarterback. Grow a pair of balls pussy!
Posted by Dead Fish
In the swamps
Member since Mar 2010
1586 posts
Posted on 9/25/10 at 8:12 am to
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I have been very consistent since the beginning of the 2009 system that JJ did not have the skill nor the aptitude to take us to the goals we all want for this team. I have also consistently said that I am sure he is a great kid and doing the best that he can. He just isn't good enough, and after, what, 18 games starting over 3 years, I have no reason to believe he is going to get there.


Then why isn’t JL the starter? Is it some sort of sinister conspiracy by the coaching staff to keep him off the field in order to destroy his career? It must be, if anyone is dumb enough to listen to you! And again you are resorting to bashing JJ to lobby for JL again. You are beyond obsessed! Who are you, JL’s dad? Maybe his brother? His nut-rubbing partner?

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That has been evolving as JJ failed to get better, and everything we heard from practice (including the ones I attended) suggests that JL has gotten better. He always had good mechanics and a rifle arm, but after he stuck around instead of transferring (an easy path) and came back in much better condition, dropped some weight, and looked much better in the Spring game and summer practices than JJ did. And when I contrast his maturity (as a RS Freshman) in facing the press after all those interceptions with his head held high and taking full responsibility with the whining we got from our Junior QB only 2 games ago, I think it shows a difference in leadership skills that is very important to that position.


Indeed, you are so obsessed with bashing JJ to lobby for JL to become the starter that you are even resorting to lying about attending practices, while at the same time bashing JJ again in order to lobby for JL to be the starter. Meanwhile, you are even resorting to making JL the victim, like he is the victim of some sort of devious and sinister conspiracy to keep him off the field to ruin his career.

Moreover, Miles has said that JL has made immense improvement in his game from last season and he would be the starting quarterback today, if JJ was the same quarterback he was last season, and both Miles and the players have said that the JJ we saw last Saturday against MSU is the normal JJ making audibles, checking off, going through his progressions, and hitting receivers with passes that are on the money. Hence, you are so obsessed with JL being the starter over JJ, that you have not only resorted to lying, bashing JJ, and now making JL out to be a victim, but also into ignoring the coaches and the players when they praise JJ. Why because you are obsessed like he is your only son or otherwise your favorite nut-rubbing buddy.

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I really don't care if this is :beatdeadhorse:


We know, because you are totally, completely, and utterly obsessed with bashing JJ in order to lobby for JL to be the starter.

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I pay LSU a lot of money for let's face it, entertainment, and just like a movie critic, that gives me the right to criticize what I am watching. I don't boo JJ or any other player, and although I have booed Crowton in the past, I really think today that it 50/50 what he has to work with versus his stubbornness in playcalling.


Buddy you aren’t by a long shot the only person that gives LSU a lot of money. Most of us here too give LSU a lot of money. Hence, when we see crazed and obsessed morons like you bashing players to lobby for backup players to start, some of us are going to point out how irrational and out of touch with reality you fools are. One more time, why do you think Crowton and Miles have made JJ the starter over JL, is it some sort of sinister conspiracy to ruin JL’s career? Tell me, are you also a 9/11 truther too? And how long have you been sucking JL’s dick?
Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 9/25/10 at 8:14 am to
First of all you need to get a couple things straight.
If any poster on this board has an obsession it's you.
You post the same bs posts over and over again.
Your best defense of JJ is to rip JL.
When that plays out, you switch over to coaching and playcalling.
See a trend here???
It's everything and everyone's fault besides JJ's.
If you could keep the guy's cock and balls out of your face for just a few minutes you'd see what is obvious to everybody else on this board.
Posted by mt1
LV
Member since Nov 2006
7199 posts
Posted on 9/25/10 at 8:14 am to
The only fricking moron in this thread is Dead Fish (does that describe the smell of your twat?). He believes it is a horrible idea to let our backup qb get some reps throwing when the game is in hand and we routinely allow our starter to run on keepers and options. This guy is a fricking brain surgeon.

Now he will hurl his 4-5 canned insults at me like a little school girl. This guy is a little bitch.
Posted by Dead Fish
In the swamps
Member since Mar 2010
1586 posts
Posted on 9/25/10 at 8:24 am to
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I'm too busy getting ready to tailgate to argue with you. You are a joke. I never bashed JJ.


You are so obsessed with irrationally and obsessively bashing, vilifying, and demonizing JJ that you have even resorted to changing your avatar to lobby for JL to be the starter. Hence, eat shite everyone can see that you are irrational and out of touch with reality while at the same time that you are a compulsive liar as well.

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I guess we can't express opinions unless we agree with you or it's "bashing".


When it’s totally irrational, it’s bashing!

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Furthermore no one here is attacking him personally, it's part of being a quarterback.


It becomes personal when you become so obsessed that you even resort to changing your avatar to lobby for JL to be the starter.

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Grow a pair of balls pussy!


Quit sucking JL’s dick you loser!
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29258 posts
Posted on 9/25/10 at 8:28 am to
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A lousy spring game that doesn’t come close to replicating the speed and intensity of an actual SEC game!


Yeah, going full speed against what might be the fastest defense in the conference in practice and in the Spring game shouldn't mean anything.

Posted by Icansee4miles
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Member since Jan 2007
29258 posts
Posted on 9/25/10 at 8:32 am to
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And how long have you been sucking JL’s dick?


The only one with a dick in his mouth is you. I think that you will see almost everyone supporting giving JL a shot is only hoping to get off that magic 100 ypg passing attack.

Again, I have asked repeatedly and you have never answered-are you JJ's Dad, cousin, neighbor, or is it just one of those mancrushes us straight guys can't understand?
Posted by Dead Fish
In the swamps
Member since Mar 2010
1586 posts
Posted on 9/25/10 at 8:52 am to
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First of all you need to get a couple things straight.
If any poster on this board has an obsession it's you.


Why because I have took it upon myself to expose how irrational and out of touch with reality you delusional JL homers are? Not to mention BT, but you are the king of the JJ bashers and JL lobbyists, as no one else on the Rant has come close to matching you when it comes to starting threads to bash JJ and to lobby for JL to be the starter, and you have the audacity to call me obsessed? Give me a break you loser!

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You post the same bs posts over and over again.


First of all, my posts aren’t BS, and they are only in response to you and your fellow obsessive JJ bashers BS posts, over and over again. Indeed, I am you and your fellow obsessive/compulsive JL homers worse enemy.

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Your best defense of JJ is to rip JL.


No, my best defense is you moron’s obsessive, compulsive, and irrational bashing of JJ in order to lobby for JL.

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When that plays out, you switch over to coaching and playcalling.


Only to point out reality, because it is clear that you and your ilk are detached from reality.

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See a trend here???


The only trend here is that you morons are completely obsessed and utterly irrational.

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It's everything and everyone's fault besides JJ's.


Hell no, I admit when JJ plays bad and I admit when he plays good, which you obsessed JL homers refuse to do. In addition, with respect to you JL homers, everything that happens bad to the team is JJ’s fault, while you also totally ignore everything he does that is good for the team.

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If you could keep the guy's cock and balls out of your face for just a few minutes you'd see what is obvious to everybody else on this board.


Sorry, I’m not a dick sucker like you guys and I damn sure don’t suck JL’s dick like you and your fellow homers do.

Finally, again why isn’t JL the starter? Is it some sort of sinister conspiracy by the coaching staff to ruin JL’s career?


Posted by Dead Fish
In the swamps
Member since Mar 2010
1586 posts
Posted on 9/25/10 at 8:56 am to
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The only fricking moron in this thread is Dead Fish (does that describe the smell of your twat?). He believes it is a horrible idea to let our backup qb get some reps throwing when the game is in hand and we routinely allow our starter to run on keepers and options. This guy is a fricking brain surgeon.

Now he will hurl his 4-5 canned insults at me like a little school girl. This guy is a little bitch.


Hey you moron, why isn’t JL already the starter? Is it some sort of sinister conspiracy by the coaching staff to ruin his career, or couldn’t it be more obvious that you and your fellow JJ bashers are totally irrational, obsessed, and detached from reality? Thanks for demonstrating it again you loser!
Posted by Dead Fish
In the swamps
Member since Mar 2010
1586 posts
Posted on 9/25/10 at 9:02 am to
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Yeah, going full speed against what might be the fastest defense in the conference in practice and in the Spring game shouldn't mean anything.


No it shouldn’t mean anything, when the team is not only divided up, but also when the speed and intensity of the game doesn’t even come close to matching the actual speed and intensity of a real SEC game and when there is no blitzing and when the defenses are about as vanilla as it gets. Not to mention that the QBs also don’t have to worry about being hit or sacked as well. Only a total football moron could be that stupid about the game of football. Thus, thanks very much for revealing exactly how dumb and stupid you are. What an idiot!
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27576 posts
Posted on 9/25/10 at 9:08 am to
JJ doesn't throw the ball down field often because he's too busy:

1. staring down Shephard.
2. checking down to a running back.
3. freakin' out in the pocket when he has perfect protection and taking off running anyway.
Posted by cenla tigah
cenla
Member since Sep 2007
5521 posts
Posted on 9/25/10 at 9:13 am to
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y does anyone care how many yds he throws for if LSU wins?


not I fwiw


I think most are worried about the "if LSU wins" part. Sure, we have so far, but 97 yards against the bama's of the world simply wont cut it
Posted by Dead Fish
In the swamps
Member since Mar 2010
1586 posts
Posted on 9/25/10 at 9:13 am to
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The only one with a dick in his mouth is you. I think that you will see almost everyone supporting giving JL a shot is only hoping to get off that magic 100 ypg passing attack.


No I don’t suck JL’s dick like you obviously do and I don’t obsessively lobby for him to be the starter the same way only you homer’s do, because I’m not irrational and detached from reality, because you see if he was the best QB on the team, he would be starting already, but he is not, unless you believe that it must be some sort of sinister plot by the coaching staff to purposefully destroy his career. Indeed, I’m not that irrational, only you morons are!

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Again, I have asked repeatedly and you have never answered-are you JJ's Dad, cousin, neighbor, or is it just one of those mancrushes us straight guys can't understand?


Hey dude…read your posts. JJ is the starter because the coaching staff has bestowed that responsibility on him because in their eyes and the eyes of the players he is unequivocally the best player on the team to hold that position, and despite that reality, I’m not here compulsively and irrationally bashing JJ for JL to be the starter like only you obsessed JL idiots are. Hence, if anyone has an irrational mancrush, it is you morons and not me!
Posted by Dead Fish
In the swamps
Member since Mar 2010
1586 posts
Posted on 9/25/10 at 9:19 am to
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I think most are worried about the "if LSU wins" part. Sure, we have so far, but 97 yards against the bama's of the world simply wont cut it


I agree which is why Crowton needs to get his finger out of his arse and stop being so ultra conservative in his play calling.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 9/25/10 at 9:29 am to
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don't confuse efforts and results.


The LSU results in their last 15 regular season games is 12-3, 7-3 which earned a Capital One Bowl invite and NR of #17 and #12 currently.



Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 9/25/10 at 9:35 am to
why does every post you make have to include JL?

Contrary to what you say Ive laid off tremendously on the play JL thing.

If this staff/team is content with this (let me quote college gameday guys) laughbable/boring offense we have ... frick it I dont care anymore.
Its gonna cost us wins down the line and every fricking person that keeps up with LSU knows it and admits it besides you.

Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27576 posts
Posted on 9/25/10 at 9:43 am to
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Thanks for demonstrating that you are totally delusional and completely detached from reality you moron!


really? No challenging what I actually stated, just name-calling?

Watch the game tonight. When you start to complain about JJ throwing a 3 yard pass on 3rd and 7, rewind and watch all of the other WRs that JJ never even looked at. Then, come back here and defend JJ and say that the coaches just sent the other 3 guys down field but intended that JJ throw it short on purpose.
Posted by just me
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Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 9/25/10 at 10:09 am to
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Everyone recognizes that you pick selective stats because you're butthurt that your pick for QB looks like crap.


Dude. Stop. Really. Every time we do this, you look like an idiot.

First, I don't pick selective stats. Just look at this thread. I asked why people think Jefferson can't throw a 200+ yard game when he had five 200+ yard games in 2009. Then I listed the five games he had in 2009 when he threw for 200+ yards. That is not posting selective stats. That is posting proof of the statement I made.

Let's compare what I did with what you did. You said:
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Against BCS bowl qualifiers he averages under 100 yards per game.
That's demonstrably wrong. Your statement about the facts is wrong. Again.

You're the one who has already been proven to be wrong on the facts. Not me. (Now, if you pull your usual crap, you'll probably make some lame attempt at trying to show that you were not very, very wrong. Nevertheless, once again, YOU made a factual assertion which was proven to be wrong, and you did it in this very thread. Again. Not me.)


Second, your assertion that I pick selective stats is wrong. Again. I don't pick selective stats. The fact that you preface your statement with the clause "everyone recognizes . . . " not only proves the weakness of your statement, it's also demonstrably wrong. Again. Not only does not "everyone" recognize your assertion; to the contrary, most posters recognize that I post facts that are readily and generally accepted to support my assertions.

Posters like you use a preface like "everyone recognizes . . . " because they know they really don't have an argument. Thus, they try to create an imaginary consensus to support a statement they cannot support with facts. It's a very typical bullshitter method for trying to pass bullshite.


Third, your pathetic attempt to try to create a wedge issue by attempting to align me with Jefferson and yourself with Lee is typical of your adolescent thinking. Lee might very well be your QB. However, Jefferson is not my QB any more than Ridley is my RB or Toliver is my WR.

I have a team. I support LSU over other teams. However, I don't have a QB, a RB, or a WR. I don't support playing one player over another player unless the first player is clearly better than the other player.

Now, I know that with your juvenile mind it's easy to confuse my questions about why you think Lee should start with a defense of Jefferson. Because with an immature mind like yours, you cannot understand anything more complex than merely taking sides. Thus, for you, either one picks Lee, or one picks Jefferson. That's all your brain can handle. For you, it's black or white.

Let me attempt to simplify it sufficiently for you. You want Lee to start. I ask why. You speculate that Lee is more accurate than Jefferson. I provide statistics that demonstrate that Jefferson is more accurate than Lee. You speculate that Lee needs another chance. I provide statistics that prove that Lee had a second chance, and it was horrible. You cry, then you say that Jefferson is horrible.

With this thread, I simply asked why people think that Jefferson won't throw for 200+ yards in a game this year. It's a simple question. He did it five times last year. He should be able to do it this year.

Note, I did not ask why Jefferson is not being considered for the Heisman, nor did I ask why Jefferson is not being considered a potential All-American.

See, Lee is as much my QB as Jefferson is my QB. They both play for LSU. I have always stated that Lee should get at least one possession every game. I have always stated that LSU will very probably need Lee to be successful. LSU's starting QBs usually get hurt and miss a game. It happened in 2009. It happened in 2008. It happened in 2007.

You desperately want to win an argument against me because I have humiliated you in the past. However, you must realize that I just point out your consistent mistakes, like the mistakes you made in this thread. Therefore, you feel that you have to align me with Jefferson to win your argument.

I recognize and have repeatedly stated ad nauseum that Jefferson made several mistakes in the UNC game, but he completed over 70% of his passes and threw for over 150 yards. I also recognize and have repeatedly stated ad nauseum that Jefferson had a horrible game against Vandy, but it was a statistical anomaly for him. Jefferson did pretty much everything that was asked of him in the MSU game. He played very well, and LSU scored on seven of eight possessions with him at QB, including two drives of 50+ yards. He also had 10 carries for 40 yards; that's 4 yard average.

I hope he gets better and puts up better stats. I think he will.

I hope Lee gets at least one possession per game. I hope Lee does well with his chances. I hope Lee gets better and puts up better stats.
Posted by TIsuGGER
Member since Apr 2009
2321 posts
Posted on 9/25/10 at 10:22 am to
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You desperately want to win an argument against me because I have humiliated you in the past.

The only humiliation in this thread was when he asked you to list 200 yard games for JJ this year, and then reduced it to 100 yard games, just to make it fair. And those numbers were against 3 teams that won't make a bowl.


Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 9/25/10 at 10:23 am to
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just me


you gotta lot to say dont you?
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