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re: Jefferson threw five 200+ yard passing games in 2009.
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:42 pm to TigerNlc
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:42 pm to TigerNlc
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It's not bashing. It's a discussion board and it's someones opinion. Quit contributing to the pussification of America. I guess you think everyone should get trophies too?
It's just funny because some of you guys speak with such intensity and scorn and haven't got the faintest clue as to what you're talking about.
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Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:42 pm to Billder
my point wasn't to bash Jefferson. he was to point out his lack of development.
don't confuse efforts and results.
SEC Football is a big business. The Starting QB of an any SEC team is always going to be the subject of scrutiny.
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Bashing an amateur athlete, that is working his arse off, is pretty weak.
don't confuse efforts and results.
SEC Football is a big business. The Starting QB of an any SEC team is always going to be the subject of scrutiny.
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:42 pm to just me
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Why do some people think that he won't throw a 200+ yard passing game this year?
just me,
I don't know why some people think that...I happen to believe that he is doing what the coaches are asking him to do right now. I think at some point this season the coaches will take some of the restrictions off of him and he will indeed pass for not only 200, but over 300 yards at some point this year.
This post was edited on 9/24/10 at 11:44 pm
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:43 pm to Rebel
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It's just funny because some of you guys speak with such intensity and scorn and haven't got the faintest clue as to what you're talking about.
I'm sure you are a regular football guru.
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:46 pm to TigerNlc
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I'm sure you are a regular football guru.
I know enough about College Football to know that no matter who is playing QB for LSU, they are going to struggle due to the man in the booth.
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:48 pm to Antonio Moss
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I know enough about College Football to know that no matter who is playing QB for LSU, they are going to struggle due to the man in the booth.
I haven't like Crowton since he was hired but JJ has had good games with him in the past.
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:49 pm to TigerNlc
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I guess you think everyone should get trophies too?
Nope. I just think you are a douche if you continue to beat a dead horse day after day. Making your personal mission to educate the world about how much JJ sucks everyday.... Thats not discussion, its obsession.
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:51 pm to Billder
I rarely come on the rant so I doubt I personally am beating a dead horse and I didn't start the thread or move it to this discussion I am simply giving my opinion.
Posted on 9/25/10 at 12:02 am to TigerNlc
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I rarely come on the rant so I doubt I personally am beating a dead horse and I didn't start the thread or move it to this discussion I am simply giving my opinion.
I hear you. I'm all for opinion.
There are just specific posters who start 10 threads on the same topic every frickin day with the same theme: JJ sucks.
They are even running out of creative ways of saying it. I saw a JJ thread wishing he was more like Drew Brees tonight! shite is getting ridiculous.
Posted on 9/25/10 at 1:47 am to Billder
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I saw a JJ thread wishing he was more like Drew Brees tonight!
Actually, earlier in this thread, I pointed out that JJ's kinfolk Dead Fish posts like JJ is the next Drew Brees. Comparing any college QB to one of the top 3 in the NFL is unfair and I would not do that. I just keep wishing he could at least not continue to hold this team back from a potential Top 10 run.
Posted on 9/25/10 at 2:15 am to Brageous
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250 as the highest
not a bad total for college not named texas tech...
Posted on 9/25/10 at 6:23 am to TigerNlc
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I didn't say shite about JL, if he plays then I will comment on him.
Look at your damn avatar, it is already more than apparent your motivation for bashing JJ is because you want JL start.
This post was edited on 9/25/10 at 7:17 am
Posted on 9/25/10 at 6:27 am to Icansee4miles
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t's nothing personal, but if you read a few Dead Fish posts (and they smell about like his screen name) you would swear his (son, cousin, Godchild, next door neighbor) JJ is the next coming of Drew Brees.
He is the weak link on this team. End of story.
It's not that I believe that JJ is the second coming of Drew Brees or something, I want the better quarterback to play unlike you and a lot of others around here that have been demonizing JJ to lobby for JL to start, and if no one believes me, then they can read your posting history to determine that you have been one of the biggest JJ demonizers and JL lobbyist.
Posted on 9/25/10 at 6:37 am to Dead Fish
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Look at your damn avatar it is already more apparent your motivation for demonizing JJ is because you want JL start.
Of course I want JL to play but this thread isn't about JL it's about JJ. I am not "demonizing" him I am simply stating my opinions and the facts that he has 9 more passing yards than PP has all purpose yards or Ryan Mallet averages almost more in one game than JJ has all season with 2 tds and 2 ints. We don't all have to agree with you and love JJ blindly some of us actually would like to see production.
This post was edited on 9/25/10 at 6:42 am
Posted on 9/25/10 at 6:52 am to RobbBobb
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JLee being the back-up doesnt make JJ any better of a QB. You do understand that, right?
It doesn’t? Then why is he the starter? Is their some kind of sinister conspiracy by the coaching staff to keep him off the field? No, he is the quarterback because he is far better than his backup JL. Indeed, except for a lousy spring game in which he threw another unforced pick six and in a game that doesn’t come close to replicating the speed and intensity of an actual SEC game and a game where there is no blitzing and where the defenses are as vanilla as can be, in every other game where JL has played he has stunk it up pretty good. He stunk it up last season in 2009 every time he subbed for JJ in games like the Bama game and the La Tech game, and in 2008 he threw 16 interceptions with 7 pick sixes in only 8 starts for a new NCAA single season record, and you have nothing else to base JL starting over JJ on except for that lousy spring game that is nothing like an actual SEC game. Hence, you are either blind or stupid, and it’s very obvious to me that it is a combination of the two.
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If JLee transfers at some point, does that suddenly make JJ one of the worst QBs in the nation?
Not nearly because neither JJ nor JL are the worst QBs in the nation, but apparently you are so obsessed with JL starting you no doubt see JJ as the worse quarterback in the nation, demonstrating at the same time that you are not only incredibly dumb but that you are exceedingly biased as well. Hence, it is very obvious that if JJ hit 100 percent of his passes and passed for 400 yards a game the remainder of the season, you would still be demonizing and vilifying him at every opportunity to lobby for JL to be the starter.
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Now do you see why ppl say you're a horrible poster? Defending JJ by putting down another player, only makes JJ look worse.
What you mean, the only posters who say I’m a horrible poster are lunatics like you that have obsessively started numerous threads to vilify and demonize JJ unfairly to lobby for JL to be the starter. In other words, only dumb and stupid people like you. In fact, you have more than demonstrated that you are obsessed with JL being the starter and that JJ can do no right in your eyes, and not only that but you have nothing to base that on other than wishful thinking.
Posted on 9/25/10 at 6:59 am to Rebel
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isn't jefferson in his 3rd year as a starter?
No, this is his second year as the starter.
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he is ranked 96th out of 116 qbs. he has 3 5* WR's, plays in the shotgun.
He is ranked so low because of the ultra conservative play calling by GC, who also happens to be the QB coach.
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it's as if he is getting worse the longer he plays.
No it’s not, he played good and better than last year in the NC games and the MSU games, but when you are obsessed with JL starting like you are, nothing JJ does in your eyes is good enough.
Posted on 9/25/10 at 6:59 am to Dead Fish
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not a bad total for college not named texas tech...
I agree 250 a game would make JJ a superstar at LSU
Posted on 9/25/10 at 7:06 am to Dead Fish
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you have been one of the biggest JJ demonizers
I have been very consistent since the beginning of the 2009 system that JJ did not have the skill nor the aptitude to take us to the goals we all want for this team. I have also consistently said that I am sure he is a great kid and doing the best that he can. He just isn't good enough, and after, what, 18 games starting over 3 years, I have no reason to believe he is going to get there.
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JL lobbyist
That has been evolving as JJ failed to get better, and everything we heard from practice (including the ones I attended) suggests that JL has gotten better. He always had good mechanics and a rifle arm, but after he stuck around instead of transferring (an easy path) and came back in much better condition, dropped some weight, and looked much better in the Spring game and summer practices than JJ did. And when I contrast his maturity (as a RS Freshman) in facing the press after all those interceptions with his head held high and taking full responsibility with the whining we got from our Junior QB only 2 games ago, I think it shows a difference in leadership skills that is very important to that position.
I really don't care if this is :beatdeadhorse:
I pay LSU a lot of money for let's face it, entertainment, and just like a movie critic, that gives me the right to criticize what I am watching. I don't boo JJ or any other player, and although I have booed Crowton in the past, I really think today that it 50/50 what he has to work with versus his stubbornness in playcalling.
Posted on 9/25/10 at 7:16 am to Icansee4miles
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Actually, earlier in this thread, I pointed out that JJ's kinfolk Dead Fish posts like JJ is the next Drew Brees.
Actually, in the many threads you’ve started to bash JJ and in the other threads that other obsessive JJ haters like you have also started and in which you eagerly participated in the bashing, I’ve said over and over again ad nauseum that I think JJ is just an average quarterback at best, and you have responded over and over again like an obsessive moron by saying that I must be related to him because I can’t see that JL is better than JJ.
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Comparing any college QB to one of the top 3 in the NFL is unfair and I would not do that.
Yet it was another obsessive/compulsive JJ hater like you who started a thread to berate JJ because he wasn’t as good as Drew Brees.
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I just keep wishing he could at least not continue to hold this team back from a potential Top 10 run.
Based on what? A lousy spring game that doesn’t come close to replicating the speed and intensity of an actual SEC game! Indeed, it must be a sinister coaching conspiracy by the coaching staff to ruin JL’s career and keep him off the field. You morons are obsessed mental retards. Not to mention that JJ isn't holding this team back, GC is holding this team back!
Posted on 9/25/10 at 7:35 am to TigerNlc
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Of course I want JL to play but this thread isn't about JL it's about JJ. I am not "demonizing" him I am simply stating my opinions and the facts that he has 9 more passing yards than PP has all purpose yards or Ryan Mallet averages almost more in one game than JJ has all season with 2 tds and 2 ints. We don't all have to agree with you and love JJ blindly some of us actually would like to see production.
Let’s get something straight right off the bat, you wouldn’t know a fact if it stared you in the face and spit in your eye! Here is a fact – you are so obsessed with vilifying and demonizing JJ to lobby for JL to become the starter that you’ve even obsessively changed your avatar to lobby for JL to start over JJ. Not to mention that every time you express your opinion, it is to bash JJ!
Moreover, if you weren’t so obsessed you would understand that stats don’t mean shite because all teams are different, have different offenses and defenses, different game plans, don’t turnover the ball or turnover the ball, don’t make penalties or make untimely penalties, and play against different teams that perform good in some games and bad in other game. Not to mention that quarterback stats are at the mercy of OCs as well who do the play calling, which is why pro teams don’t go by stats but by evaluation only instead.
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We don't all have to agree with you and love JJ blindly some of us actually would like to see production.
Actually, if you weren’t so obsessed, you’d have to admit that JJ had good games against NC and MSU, but you are so obsessed with JL being the starter, nothing JJ does will ever be good enough for you because you are totally obsessed. Sucks to be you. Finally, if I’m so blind, then why is JJ the starter? Is it some sort of sinister conspiracy by the coaching staff to keep JL off the field? If anyone is blind, it’s you and your fellow JL homers.
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