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people are so ridiculous. It's year 3 and every single player has not been here for more than 2 years. Good gosh 
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:14 am to LSUButt
My issue with JJ is he draws up terrible sets out of timeouts
Twice he called TO under 2:00 left to run a play and the play he drew up was terrible. That is a waste of a TO, better off just letting them play.
Twice he called TO under 2:00 left to run a play and the play he drew up was terrible. That is a waste of a TO, better off just letting them play.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:30 am to LSUButt
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people are so ridiculous. It's year 3 and every single player has not been here for more than 2 years. Good gosh
Stop with this absurd excuse. Basketball isn't like football!!!! A new coach doesn't need 4-5 years to replenish a roster. Quick turnarounds can happen much easier. JJ is in his third year, that's enough time to make the tournament. The "young roster" excuse doesn't fly in basketball.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:38 am to adamb2151
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Team is not that talented.
Not entirely true. They do have talent but if you go to City Park and watch the pickup games going on out there, that's what LSU basketball has become.
A recreational pickup team playing in the SEC.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:25 am to YouAre8Up
I used to be on the bash JJ bandwagon....but last night I saw it differently than I normally have seen the games this season. This game was LSU's game to have but they let A&M get so many second, third and fourth opportunities because they didn't box out and were not able to get the rebound. Without those extra opportunities at scoring, LSU wins by 10. Jones was yelling at them during timeouts, especially Mickey and I am assuming it was because A&M had their way on the offensive boards last night. Plain and simple. If the coach is telling them what to do and the players do not execute I cannot pin all of that on JJ. Just sayin'.
It's also laughable that Martin and Mickey think they will go into the NBA next season. They may be NBA talent at some point but leaving early is not in their best interest to make a living in the pros long term.
It's also laughable that Martin and Mickey think they will go into the NBA next season. They may be NBA talent at some point but leaving early is not in their best interest to make a living in the pros long term.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:28 am to statman34
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This game was LSU's game to have but they let A&M get so many second, third and fourth opportunities because they didn't box out and were not able to get the rebound
This is something that has happened all season, not just last night. It's a coaching issue. We have 2 elite Forwards yet give up something like 12-14 offensive boards a game, that shouldn't happen.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:30 am to statman34
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If the coach is telling them what to do and the players do not execute I cannot pin all of that on JJ.
Wrong. If a player isn't doing what the coach wants, the coach should sit that player on the bench and put someone in the game that will. If our bench isn't deep enough for that, well that's on JJ too.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:36 am to atltiger6487
Hard to argue with both of those points. OK, back on the JJ fault train. 
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:38 am to adamb2151
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Team is not that talented.
And Mizzou, Miss State, and Auburn have talent?
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:39 am to thunderbird1100
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This is something that has happened all season, not just last night. It's a coaching issue. We have 2 elite Forwards yet give up something like 12-14 offensive boards a game, that shouldn't happen.
When you have a guy like Mickey jumping around to block every shot, if your guards don't pinch down and help out on the backside, you're going to give up a lot of offensive boards when Mickey doesn't block the shot.
That being said, Marin and Mickey did and have done a piss poor job blocking out all season.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:41 am to atltiger6487
One thing that will make it even harder to stomach going forward is having great talent come to LSU but always underachieving. Dale Brown 2.0. At least under Trent Johnson no one could say we had talent or depth.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:55 am to atltiger6487
There are so many contradictions with people who are agreeing with each other. Jones doesn't have big man depth because he was left with 1 big man who had any talent. When Jones took over we had Jalen Courtney, Tuba, and JOB. It was a month before the last signing period, all quality will be gone by then. His first true class he brought in 3 big men, 2 of which are good and Malone not. Last class he brought in a long 3/4 with Epps and Elbert who is a project. I hate the excuse that basketball isn't like football...everyone judges things off of UK, Duke, Kansas, UNC. We are none of those teams!!! We need 3-4 year players and we have several, but they're freshmen and sophs right now. Teams like Wisconsin and Virgina are powers because of their leadership and experience.
It's very obvious how many of you don't watch other college basketball games. Most teams that are ranked, play good basketball, have older more experienced players. Lsu wil never be UK, we should not act like our team should be built like that. Having freshmen and sophomore account for most of your mins is not a recipe for success.
It's very obvious how many of you don't watch other college basketball games. Most teams that are ranked, play good basketball, have older more experienced players. Lsu wil never be UK, we should not act like our team should be built like that. Having freshmen and sophomore account for most of your mins is not a recipe for success.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 9:01 am to ALT F4
Its time for the players to start actually playing. Hornsby is the only player who comes to play every game. There is so much a coach can do
Posted on 2/18/15 at 9:27 am to adamb2151
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They don't make free throws, rebound and are careless with the basketball.
Coaching? This is a repeat of Dale Brown coached teams. Dale could recruit. No doubt. But this is the same ole story with LSU Basketball. Get a guy who can recruit (not named Trent Johnson who could not coach or recruit) and then win games on whatever talent you have without the benefit of in game coaching ability. JJ is a Dale Brown clone. Those teams were highly undisciplined, could not shoot free throws as a team and had very little offensive strategy or organization. X's and O's were void in that era of LSU basketball as well.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 9:54 am to thunderbird1100
My issue is that we are still making the same mistakes we've been making all season long. We are still having problems simply getting the ball in bounds, especially under our own basket. Forced turnovers happen. However, all season long, most of our turnovers have come because the player involved simply throws it away or makes a horribly lazy pass. As for inconsistency problems/the cure, that is why JJ is getting paid the money he is. None of us are college coaches & lack his expertise, but he should know how with all his yrs of experience. And not necessarily by sitting them down. Gray sits & still makes the same mistakes, just not as many as his playing time is reduced. Much like Chavis is blamed for losing so many games in the last quarter/drive of the game, we keep losing game after game after game in the last minute/s or so.Which makes it the HC's fault.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:01 am to skullopener
You're correct,he's the guy calling the plays at the end of close games that aren't working
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:04 am to Keltic Tiger
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Gray sits & still makes the same mistakes
Simply not true. Gray has had 5 turnovers the last 5 games. He's averaging 19 minutes a game and 1 turnover. Yea he got blocked once last night, that happens. You know how Mickey gets like 4 blocks a game? Guards are supposed to have a tougher time scoring in the paint. I guess we would rather just shoot 3's the whole time? LSU is best when they attack the paint. Josh Gray driving to the lane and getting a shot blocked is still better in the long run than someone shooting a contested 3 with 20 seconds left on the clock. The more a guard drives into the lane, the more it opens it up for our shooters on the outside.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:06 am to adamb2151
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Team is not that talented. They don't make free throws, rebound and are careless with the basketball. People always talk about how talented we are. I think its time you look in the mirror and just realize we aren't that talented. Plus we have absolutely no depth.
Then maybe he needs to look in the mirror for recruiting untalented guys and leaving us with no bench. One way or another, he's the coach. It rises and falls on him.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:07 am to LSUButt
Every time we come out of a timeout in a close game we take a shot that I'm hoping wasn't drawn up to look like that. It's like they set up a play and if it's not immediately there, it turns in to street ball and they jack up a shot in a panic instead of resetting or having a backup play. Very frustrating to watch time and again. 
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:09 am to ALT F4
I know Odo is terrible but why hasn't he played at all in the last 10 games? Not even junk time at the very end.
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