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re: Is Pelini a better DC than Venables and Aranda?
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:03 pm to BlackAngus
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:03 pm to BlackAngus
Neither were available for LSU 2020.
But... Pellini may be the best hire LSU could have made.
He is an excellent recruiter and the players love him. His defenses were salty during his tenure. (Mainly due to talent IMO)
I trust the process and what O wants to do.
But... Pellini may be the best hire LSU could have made.
He is an excellent recruiter and the players love him. His defenses were salty during his tenure. (Mainly due to talent IMO)
I trust the process and what O wants to do.
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:06 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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More likely that he was the only candidate that we interviewe
They interviewed Richards and Baker for sure
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:09 pm to BlackAngus
I mean Venables is the only defense that was able stop LSU this year.......err
wait a minute..
Never mind.
Well he’s been stopping all those vaunted ACC offenses. So there’s that!
wait a minute..
Never mind.
Well he’s been stopping all those vaunted ACC offenses. So there’s that!
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:12 pm to VermilionTiger
Yeah cause venable’s defense looked great in the title game. Lo fricking L. Venables D is overrated in a shite conference
This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:14 pm to TigahTeeth
Aranda was a good DC. I have no idea where everyone gets that Aranda was a Great DC? None of the numbers support that as his D got worse each year. I know for a fact from folks that talk directly to O that he got more involved after Ole Miss and demanded that the D be more aggressive and Blitz more.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:15 pm to BlackAngus
His abrasiveness got him fired at Nebraska. He is a good football coach. Maybe being a coordinator suits him best.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:16 pm to Peepdip
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How many dc's are better than aranda and Venables?
Just curious, where has Venables coached that he didn't have superior talent to the rest of the league?
He didn't fare very well vs Saban/LSU when he was at Oklahoma.
His defense vs LSU wasn't the most successful we saw this season.
What makes him great? Was it his game vs Alabama last season?
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:18 pm to LaTexSaint
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The good thing is, if Bo is any good, he's likely to retire as an LSU DC, than pursue any HC opportunities!
I disagree with this. I believe the only reason he is taking this job is to come in and hopefully he gets another opportunity at a bigger school than where he was at (Youngstown St)
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:20 pm to CaptainPanic
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Aranda had Top 10 defenses multiple years
What do you mean by "significant"?
Do you find the difference between top 5 and top 20 to be significant?
I do.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:26 pm to BlackAngus
Not in my perception, but I'm just a fan
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:28 pm to Dlab2013
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Pelini at LSU
2005: No. 3 (266.8)
2006: No. 3 (242.8)
2007: No. 3 (288.8)
Aranda
2016: No. 10 (314.4)
2017: No. 12 (316)
2018: No. 25 (338.7)
2019: No. 31 (346.1)
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:30 pm to Summer of George
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Yeah cause venable’s defense looked great in the title game. Lo fricking L. Venables D is overrated in a shite conference
Burrow admitted after the game that they never did figure out where the blitzes were coming from
I'd say that's a pretty good endorsement
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:35 pm to BlackAngus
Nope. Not even close.
Forget the numbers in 2007. Our defense wasn't close to that 2003 defense.
Forget the numbers in 2007. Our defense wasn't close to that 2003 defense.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:43 pm to southdowns84
quote:I'd say multiple Top 10 defenses are pretty damn good. 2019 is still TBD because they are essentially 5th when you factor in the strength of schedule.
Do you find the difference between top 5 and top 20 to be significant?
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:48 pm to prplhze2000
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Nope. Not even close.
Forget the numbers in 2007. Our defense wasn't close to that 2003 defense.
Yeah but neither of those guys were on the 2003 coaching staff so what's your point?
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:57 pm to BlackAngus
Not even close
Posted on 1/27/20 at 3:59 pm to ArcticTiger
Lol, that’s what I love about the rant, you can always find posts that have the exact opposite of the truth in them with the poster being 100% confident about posting it.
This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 1/27/20 at 4:00 pm to BlackAngus
Better than Aranda but will have to catch up to Venebles
Posted on 1/27/20 at 4:03 pm to Powerman
It remains to be seen. I'm afraid college offenses have changes so much since the mid 2000s that we can't really know.
What I do find comforting is that Corey Raymond likes him enough to have gone to Nebraska with Pelini as his secondary coach in 2011.
Corey's defensive backs are the cornerstone of LSU's defense IMO so I think it's safe to say Corey is onboard with this hire. From Wikipedia Pelini's pedigree is DBs and linebackers so I assume Coach O is planning to keep Bill Johnson for DL, Pelini will have LBs, Corey will have corners and maybe safeties, depending on if Busch is retained.
So for cohesion and addressing the hole Aranda left I think it looks good on paper.
What I do find comforting is that Corey Raymond likes him enough to have gone to Nebraska with Pelini as his secondary coach in 2011.
Corey's defensive backs are the cornerstone of LSU's defense IMO so I think it's safe to say Corey is onboard with this hire. From Wikipedia Pelini's pedigree is DBs and linebackers so I assume Coach O is planning to keep Bill Johnson for DL, Pelini will have LBs, Corey will have corners and maybe safeties, depending on if Busch is retained.
So for cohesion and addressing the hole Aranda left I think it looks good on paper.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 4:08 pm to CaptainPanic
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I'd say multiple Top 10 defenses are pretty damn good. 2019 is still TBD because they are essentially 5th when you factor in the strength of schedule.
Aranda had 1 top 10 defense in 4 years at LSU.
Pelini had 3 top 5 defenses in 3 years at LSU.
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