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re: Is Pelini a better DC than Venables and Aranda?
Posted on 1/27/20 at 2:09 pm to CalTiger53
Posted on 1/27/20 at 2:09 pm to CalTiger53
Hell no.
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 2:09 pm to BlackAngus
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average HC at best during his days at Nebraska
Not based on what they've done since
Posted on 1/27/20 at 2:09 pm to BlackAngus
He wasn’t an average coach. He had Nebraska in the Top 25. As For Being DC He’s got many talented players to work with. There’s also a lot a DC can do with Derek Stingley and more great corners. He can call more risky defenses. It took a while before Venables became Venables.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 2:09 pm to BlackAngus
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He was an average HC at best during his days at Nebraska and Youngstown.
Average at best? Wow, There must be a lot of undefeated coaches to bring the average up to...
2008 9-4
2009 10-4
2010 10-4
2011 9-4
2012 10-4
2013 9-4
2014 9-4
Posted on 1/27/20 at 2:10 pm to BlackAngus
yes , yes
Posted on 1/27/20 at 2:11 pm to stho381
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He was a better HC than people gave him credit for. He had Nebraska at 9-win avg. and when they let him go, the program tanked off.
Not to mention, Mack Brown and UT fricked him out of a B12 championship.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 2:11 pm to BlackAngus
he put some nasty defenses together at nebraska, Suh lived in the backfield against that Colt McCoy Texas team
Posted on 1/27/20 at 2:12 pm to BlackAngus
He is as good as them.
The difference is usually talent.
All three would look amazing with Clemson DL in 2018.
I would Say defense is 80% talent 20% coaching.
A good coach will go far with great talent than a great coach will with just good talent.
The difference is usually talent.
All three would look amazing with Clemson DL in 2018.
I would Say defense is 80% talent 20% coaching.
A good coach will go far with great talent than a great coach will with just good talent.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 2:12 pm to CalTiger53
I am excited that we will be going back to the 4-3 defense.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 2:12 pm to BlackAngus
He would be ranked 3rd out of those 3 in my book
Posted on 1/27/20 at 2:12 pm to BlackAngus
Just gotta trust O
Posted on 1/27/20 at 2:13 pm to BlackAngus
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Is Pelini a better DC than Venables
I don't know, but they were co-DCs together at OU back in 2004 whenever USC hung 55 up on them in the BCS title game.
And let's not forget Venables' defense allowed Canada's offense at Pitt hang 43 on him back in 2016. They won the CFP that year. This is the same year Clemson let Lamar Jackson's Louisville team score 31; LSU held them to 9 points in the bowl game.
Point is...who knows, but Venables has a lot of bad games. Go look at their record over the years. Lots of 35-40+ point games during Clemson's golden years stretch.
This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 1/27/20 at 2:13 pm to BlackAngus
Can't say for sure.
But I bet his career numbers stand up well next to theirs.
But I bet his career numbers stand up well next to theirs.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 2:13 pm to BlackAngus
He is not as smart or cerebral as Aranda, or as good at adjusting.
That being said, I've always preferred the aggressive style to Aranda's.
That being said, I've always preferred the aggressive style to Aranda's.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 2:16 pm to BlackAngus
This chapter has yet to be written
Posted on 1/27/20 at 2:18 pm to Fun Bunch
Pelini at LSU
2005: No. 3 (266.8)
2006: No. 3 (242.8)
2007: No. 3 (288.8)
Aranda
2019: No. 31 (346.1)
2005: No. 3 (266.8)
2006: No. 3 (242.8)
2007: No. 3 (288.8)
Aranda
2019: No. 31 (346.1)
Posted on 1/27/20 at 2:20 pm to The Pirate King
quote:LSU's defense was 5th in the nation when you factor in the strength of schedule
If he can field a top 30 defense next year he will have done better than Aranda did this year.
Total Defense is a laughable stat. See Utah, Buffalo, & San Diego State
Posted on 1/27/20 at 2:21 pm to BlackAngus
I thought he was a great DC when he was at LSU. Hindsight could be 20/20 though. But outside of the 2 OT loses in the 2007 season, I thought LSU was pretty damn stout on defense while Pelini was the coordinator.
I am sure someone will disagree and clear it up for me.
I am sure someone will disagree and clear it up for me.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 2:24 pm to Dlab2013
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Pelini at LSU
2005: No. 3 (266.8)
2006: No. 3 (242.8)
2007: No. 3 (288.8)
Aranda
2019: No. 31 (346.1)
OK So you stacked the 3 seasons leading up to the 2007 game. How about showing the 3 leading up to this years CFP for Aranda.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 2:26 pm to Kracka
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OK So you stacked the 3 seasons leading up to the 2007 game. How about showing the 3 leading up to this years CFP for Aranda.
While it is a bad look to just show 2019 for Aranda, 2005-2007 were the only three years Pelini was at LSU.
Wasn't a stack to show the lead up to that one season...it was his entire tenure here.
Though, to strengthen his argument, he definitely needs to include more than just this past season for Aranda.
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