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re: Greg Mcelroy brings up Jamarcus

Posted on 12/31/22 at 4:31 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/31/22 at 4:31 pm to
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He was 25-4 as the starting QB

OK thanks for saving me the time looking it up. I know we didn't lose too many games with him starting.

I don't know anyone who would blame either of the 2, 2005 losses on him, or Auburn 2006.

I won't say Florida 06 but I'll just give it for argument's sake.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/31/22 at 4:31 pm to
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How did he get the 24 on the Wonderlic, then?

Did his agent sneak in as him?


It's amazing watching people post and believe shite they heard other people say while dismissing actual facts.

How did he have the same score as mahomes if he couldn't read?
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 12/31/22 at 4:34 pm to
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the best arm he’s ever seen was Jamarcus Russell.

Belichek said that honor belongs to another LSU QB in Bert Jones. Said he would want him at QB, just as much as he would Brady due to his arm strength
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/31/22 at 4:34 pm to
Honestly....anyone that says Jruss wasn't a great qb for lsu... I just know I can dismiss their football opinion. Raiders jruss won't ever diminish what lsu jruss was.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/31/22 at 4:35 pm to
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How did he have the same score as mahomes if he couldn't read?

FWIW, I actually saw him read the back of an NCAA game box while waiting to get it on opening night. I thought he was a DE (he cut in front of everyone and was obviously an athlete of some kind. This was his redshirt year).
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/31/22 at 4:36 pm to
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Honestly....anyone that says Jruss wasn't a great qb for lsu... I just know I can dismiss their football opinion.

The best was in real time watching idiots on here argue with me and defend Troy Smith when I said JR had the best QB season in 2006
Posted by Draino54
Member since Mar 2022
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Posted on 12/31/22 at 4:57 pm to
Didn’t Russell score the all time low on the Wonderlic test?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 12/31/22 at 5:05 pm to
No
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 12/31/22 at 5:06 pm to
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Not a recipe for a national title.



I don't believe he ever won a title at any level. Great physical tools, but that is all. He went as far as a great arm and great team mates would carry him.
Posted by FlyFishinTiger
Fayetteville,AR
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Posted on 12/31/22 at 5:14 pm to
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Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 7:13 pm to
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This "college kid" at the time came up with a analytic to determine how well a college qb will do in the pros


You mean the kids that say Brady Qui n was gonna be great in the nfl? If it was worth a frick he wouldn't be working in the nba
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The Wonderlic and 'football IQ' are not the same



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The Wonderlic Contemporary Cognitive Ability Test (formerly Wonderlic Personnel Test) is an assessment used to measure the cognitive ability and problem-solving aptitude of prospective employees for a range of occupations

People claiming he could barely read while scoring the same as mahomes and better than Favre.


Just stop brother...
Jruss didn't have problems reading a defense or make big mistakes while playing for lsu...

Again, his qb play was considered the gold standard before burrow.
He only held single season records of passing tds,completion % and qb rating at a top 15 alltime program.

He is #3 alltime in passing tds while only playing 3 years.
He is #2 alltime in completion %.
He is 4th all time in totals offensive yards while only playing 3 years.


This post was edited on 12/31/22 at 7:23 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/31/22 at 7:14 pm to
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Didn’t Russell score the all time low on the Wonderlic test?


Holy shite....
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 7:21 pm to
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JaMarcus Russell is going to immediately energize that fanbase, that football team -- on the practice field, in that locker room. Three years from now you could be looking at a guy that's certainly one of the elite top five quarterbacks in this league. -mel kiper


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The workout Russell had was Star Wars. It was unbelievable." Then-Tampa Bay Bucs coach Jon Gruden


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This year, I can't get over how good and talented JaMarcus Russell is. It just blew me away. If I had the first, second, third, fourth, fifth pick in that draft, I would be tearing apart his personal life trying to figure out whether or not I could trust this kid with $10-million ... From a physical skill set perspective, I've never seen a college quarterback with more ability than Russell. You put the tape on and it's frightening.- mike mayock

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I've never seen a kid that big who can sit there and just have people hanging on him and make the throws he can make. He reminds me a little bit of Daunte Culpepper, but a little bigger. I'm sure he's going to continue to be a great player." -- Houston Texans coach Gary Kubiak

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The film that we've watched has impressed more and more. The guy can wing it but seems to have that real feel for the game, and a presence. He looks like he could come into any system and be ready.'' -- Then-Detroit Lions coach Rod Marinelli


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JaMarcus Russell, my man. The Raiders finally get their big arm. And he's a good kid, strong kid, smart kid. He'll be a big-time player. If I'm the Raiders, that's who I pick. That's pretty easy." -- FOX's Terry Bradshaw

So please tell us more about these boneheaded plays that were readily seen prior to Oakland. Multiple NFL coaches and scouts saying Jruss film was amazing.
This post was edited on 12/31/22 at 7:24 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47956 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 7:28 pm to
All anybody has to do is watch any of the interviews JRuss gave post career to find out what happened in Oakland. He doesn’t dodge responsibility but for him to bust and flame out like he did it took an organizational failure and other personal situations he openly explains in detail. What’s sad is the poster you’re responding to and people like him don’t want to know better. They don’t want the ignorance they spew exposed. Narrative > facts is how these guys roll.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 12/31/22 at 7:30 pm to
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During his call on the Orange Bowl he said that the best arm he’s ever seen was Jamarcus Russell.


Milton's arm was no where near JRoc
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 7:34 pm to
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What’s sad is the poster you’re responding to and people like him don’t want to know better


It's also sad that the low wonderlic score narrative started here. For some wearing that bama boy necklace was enough to write him off forever.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37262 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 7:45 pm to
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Madking
Remember recently when I said posters hated JR?

This is kiddie stuff compared to what was happening then.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47956 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 8:00 pm to
The Rant never fails to amaze. Glad I wasn’t here for that nonsense.
This post was edited on 12/31/22 at 8:02 pm
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37262 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 8:13 pm to
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The Rant never fails to amaze. Glad I wasn’t here for that nonsense.
For sure.

I didn’t even want to enter this thread, y’all brought real facts - against the opinions.

Prior to Joe, JR was the best LSU QB.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47956 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 9:21 pm to
Personally I’d still take Hodson after JB. I can’t imagine the numbers he’d put up in a modern offense but I can’t fault you for going with JR.
This post was edited on 12/31/22 at 9:22 pm
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