- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Gordy Rush defensive film breakdown RE: losing contain
Posted on 9/12/13 at 2:27 pm to Penrod
Posted on 9/12/13 at 2:27 pm to Penrod
I think that the inexperience and just finding the right rotation is the main two things right now.
Its in no way an execuse or Im saying anything bad about it, we lost a lot on the D to the NFL, we all knew there would be growing pains. All of a sudden certain guys are terrible, slow, and weak.
No our DB's are huge, the broadcaster in the first week said it was the most phtyiscally gifted DB group he has seen in college in a long time, and that some pro teams arent even as big.
Have no doubt our D-Line is doing there job with Coach haley, and the LB will get better in Chief I trust.
Its in no way an execuse or Im saying anything bad about it, we lost a lot on the D to the NFL, we all knew there would be growing pains. All of a sudden certain guys are terrible, slow, and weak.
No our DB's are huge, the broadcaster in the first week said it was the most phtyiscally gifted DB group he has seen in college in a long time, and that some pro teams arent even as big.
Have no doubt our D-Line is doing there job with Coach haley, and the LB will get better in Chief I trust.
0
Posted on 9/12/13 at 2:56 pm to dinosaur
The DB's job when he reads this is to yell & warn the DE or LB of the crack block. It also depends on the coverage, if the DB is backed off or playing the WR tight. It helps also if the DE gets some upfield movement.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 3:06 pm to BigEdLSU
Posted on 9/12/13 at 3:23 pm to KT70
With the SEC games that have already been played. I'm not seeing dominate D play from anyone team. If anything most D's seem to be getting gashed. What do you guys think?
Posted on 9/12/13 at 3:29 pm to DJTigers
Bama and UF D are stought. UGA looks like ours. The rest are not very good right now.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 3:47 pm to TigerFanNKaty
Uga has bigger problems on d than us. We may start a true freshman at corner that game because he is an elite talent
Uga is currently starting a true freshman at corner #4 because of lack of bodies. He is hot garbage and has given up something like 5 passing TDS in two games.
Uga is currently starting a true freshman at corner #4 because of lack of bodies. He is hot garbage and has given up something like 5 passing TDS in two games.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 3:56 pm to lake chuck fan
good explanation thank you
Posted on 9/12/13 at 4:00 pm to dinosaur
also looking at the game again, #16 had a good game
Tre White
Tre White
Posted on 9/12/13 at 4:02 pm to BigEdLSU
Yes. LBers are in wrong position. DB's are really struggling to take right angles and cover.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 4:10 pm to Football_Freak
Big Ed, you are right. #4 Langley for Georgia is their soft spot on D. I think Carolina had 2 or 3 TDs on him. That will be our key to winning is not having a Langley in our secondary. We just need to continue to work out the kinks on defense and allow the cream rise to the top. Some of it already has (Kwon).
Posted on 9/12/13 at 4:10 pm to dnm3305
quote:
Well, its pretty obvious the three best LB's havent been on the field so far this season so shut the frick up.
Are you saying you know more the chavis? The guy is a freaking d.c. legend and you know more than him? o.m.g. it gets even better you really believe what you are spewing
Posted on 9/12/13 at 4:18 pm to clamdip
Would be crazy if our secondary ends up being , Eugene, Jefferson, White and RR and it could conceivably happen considering how talented that young group is. I just want the best on the field. No matter their names.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 4:24 pm to dos crystal
I don't know a lot.
however, I find this amusing that some in this thread are complaining about the coaching on defense.
John Chavis is a GREAT d.c., whatever issues we have on defense isn't because of coaching. He's the same d.c. that had dominate d's at tenn and constructed probably the best defense in lsu history in 2011.
The issues we have is more likely due to inexperience and talent. Welter know's what to do but is limited from a talent stand point. J collins and mills probably know what to do but are limited. Then you have highly talented guys like q.a., d.b., d.j., white, robinson, who aren't experienced enough to recognize what to do.
this isn't complicated and i have the ut most faith that these guys are getting the best teaching out there. some get it quicker than others. Minter was an entirely different player from his soph to his jr year.
If you are bitching about coaching on the defensive side of the ball, just stop. you look stupid.
however, I find this amusing that some in this thread are complaining about the coaching on defense.
John Chavis is a GREAT d.c., whatever issues we have on defense isn't because of coaching. He's the same d.c. that had dominate d's at tenn and constructed probably the best defense in lsu history in 2011.
The issues we have is more likely due to inexperience and talent. Welter know's what to do but is limited from a talent stand point. J collins and mills probably know what to do but are limited. Then you have highly talented guys like q.a., d.b., d.j., white, robinson, who aren't experienced enough to recognize what to do.
this isn't complicated and i have the ut most faith that these guys are getting the best teaching out there. some get it quicker than others. Minter was an entirely different player from his soph to his jr year.
If you are bitching about coaching on the defensive side of the ball, just stop. you look stupid.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 5:07 pm to dos crystal
quote:
He's the same d.c. that had dominate d's at tenn and constructed probably the best defense in lsu history in 2011.
Chavis is a great DC (and arguably the best LB pos coach of al-time) but his D's at Tenn were seldom dominant. His best body of work is happening before our eyes. 2011 was a great D but in recent times 2003 has been the best.
As for this year's D, we're simply young and making young mistakes. I think Chief is probably experimenting some so there may be some lineup changes come Auburn game - I expect'em at LB and DB.
quote:
Minter was an entirely different player from his soph to his jr year.
Great point. Similarly, Kelvin Sheppard in his 2nd yr under Chief became a force at LB in '10.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 6:16 pm to AlwysATgr
Linebackers and d backs will get better as it doesn't seem that who will be the starters going forward has been set yet. I expect to see some changes against Kent St and even more against Auburn. This is a young defense and it is still being sorted out. It will get a lot better. We have a lot of good young talent in DB's White, Robinson, and Jefferson along with LB's Louis, Debo, and Beckwith. Expect some changes to be made to make us faster and more athletic in the back 7. Those bad angles and losing containment problems will be taken care of once we get the better talent on the field. Got to remember a lot of these guys just got on campus. Kent St game should be real interesting.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 6:18 pm to BigEdLSU
I don't think the DEs are faultless. They get collapsed inside a ton and not because of "crack backs." They are just getting beat by OTs and TEs.
But yeah, the LBs have been miserable. Kwon started to show something 2nd half vs. UAB, but he's struggled at times too.
But yeah, the LBs have been miserable. Kwon started to show something 2nd half vs. UAB, but he's struggled at times too.
Posted on 9/13/13 at 3:30 am to OBUDan
OK, so I think most of us can agree on this point...the staff has been teaching the proper techniques at practice, but the 1st & 2nd year players haven't perfected execution yet...the older guys haven't solidified their starting positions, so the staff has been working in the youngsters to see what they can do under fire...we're starting to see progress from them, but not acceptable results...this week's evaluation with Kent St. will be key to see who starts against Auburn...personally, I'm excited to see who steps up and takes the starting LB jobs...
Posted on 9/13/13 at 5:32 am to BigEdLSU
quote:
receivers are "cracking back" on our de's
Mismatch. Shed them and make a play.
Posted on 9/13/13 at 6:01 am to BigEdLSU
Trying to breakdown film without having knowledge of the calls made on the sideline is about as useful as tits on a nun.
Posted on 9/13/13 at 7:20 am to Antonio Moss
quote:
Trying to breakdown film without having knowledge of the calls made on the sideline is about as useful as tits on a nun.
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would rather go through these growing pains early in the season against TCU and UAB then against the meat of the schedule.
Let's see how this shakes out when Aub comes to town. By then things should be much clearer. We have some new pieces that are taking over for experienced players that left. You'll always have growing pains when that happens.
Guys like J.Collins and R.Martin have their arse to the fire right now, lets see how they react.
I don't know that this will be a dominant defense, but they can be pretty damn good. This is another good game to get some young guys feet wet and work on some of the problems. Then it gets real come SEC play.
Page 4 of 5
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News