re: Does our style of "pro style" offense hinder our passing game?

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They say it is the route trees and QB reads that make it pro style and has nothing to do with formations or play calling.

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We have an ex pro OC...that is why they think it's a pro style offense. I don't watch coach films of the games to truly know the route trees we run but I am pretty sure Blackledge said we ran a simple route scheme. I would think he would say that after watching the coaches films since it's almost impossible to get an understanding of the routes watching the games as shown on tv.

Good response. My question is this though. We always hear about qbs reading defenses and all but with all the checking back with the sideline for checks and what not wouldn't you think they would also be identifying which receiver is the primary wr?

Also we do simplify a lot of our passes with max protect 1-2 wr routes.

I think the only way they can improve the passing game and QB development is to work on passing against the rent a wins.

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They say it is the route trees and QB reads that make it pro style and has nothing to do with formations or play calling.

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It's because of the presnap reads both the receivers & QB have to make at the line of scrimmage. The receivers have to adjust their routes depending on the defensive coverage. The QB has to see the same thing. Then communication with simple hand gestures before the snap of the ball becomes key as the receivers & QB have to see the same thing & be on the same page. As for the routes, there are times where the QB is throwing to spot other times it's on timing. If a receiver doesn't get to the spot on time or doesn't the get the proper depth on the route, it can ruin the entire play. In instances like that, the QB will get looked at for making a bad read or poor throw but the failure of the play really goes on the receiver. It just takes time for this all to come together sometimes.

Is that good enough for you Topwater Dumbass?

During last year's bowl game Jon Gruden talked about the complex NFL passing game that LSU was running and how far ahead the LSU receivers will be. Hard to argue with this success of Landry and OBJ.

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Also we do simplify a lot of our passes with max protect 1-2 wr routes.

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When I say 2 reads, I don't mean only 2 WR routes, but only ask the QB to read the defense and choose between 2 WRs with however many WRs in the formation/running routes.

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I think the only way they can improve the passing game and QB development is to work on passing against the rent a wins.

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The QBs definitely need more reps in the passing game to improve. Whether against rent-a-wins or in practice, it looks like they are so limited with reading coverages that finding the "right" option is difficult. The passing game looks forced rather than comfortable.

I've debated myself on whether it's the preparation or the talent, but what it seems to me is the philosophy of executing the play as designed without mistakes. It looks like the QBs are pressing and uncomfortable.

Doesn't seem like the best way to complement a great running game. All we need is to be able to make defenses respect our passing and we would be so much better off.

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I've debated myself on whether it's the preparation or the talent, but what it seems to me is the philosophy of executing the play as designed without mistakes. It looks like the QBs are pressing and uncomfortable.

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I really think it's all about reps.

We run left all night long and the ball is always on the left hash. From what I have seen AJ is good rolling out to his right...it limits the reads and gives him the run/pass option. We do not cater to his strengths.

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I still think we could absolutely kill teams running a power oriented version of Oregons offense.

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All of our running backs have very good to excellent speed and Fournette would excel in open space. If we sped up the offense we could probably tire out most defenses with our depth. They would still get punished physically trying to tackle our athletes.

Wish we would stop spending the entire play clock trying to call the perfect play and instead just line up and go.

would you say the Saints and Denver (along with most of the rest of the NFL )run pro style offenses?

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You can only roll a QB out so many times per game & be successful with it before you CBs jumping your underneath routes. Plus it shrinks the field which can lead to more interceptions.

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I'm not saying run it all night. I'm saying he looks comfortable rolling to his right.

I really don't see him making that many bad reads anyway. The problems seem to be more with a lack of reps and timing. Lacks confidence.