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re: Does it trouble you that Miles does not see a need to change scheme?

Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:27 pm to
Posted by Canwoodtiger
Member since Oct 2015
3737 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:27 pm to
Like what has been posted before, BH is not ready to attack the middle of the field with his lack of touch. Once he is our offense can be tweaked. It does not help that his WRs have dropped a few as well. Then there is CLM's post 2008 traumatic Pick 6 paranoia syndrome. A QB needs to instill confidence that the slants and passes to the middle of the field can be executed.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67601 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:29 pm to
How many of them have our talent?

It's really unfair to bring up spread teams with less talent than us trying to make your point...it's comparing apples to oranges.

When is the last time a power running team beat them?
Posted by TBoy@LSU
Member since Sep 2012
5510 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:29 pm to
Let's see. 7-1 and #9 in the CFP = Miles can't coach.
Posted by copenhagen pete
folsom
Member since Mar 2010
704 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:30 pm to
Fj runner. Not at all man. I'm saying it must be hard to think about change while being so successful but not changing will possibly cause the team to never be COMPLETELY successful. Hope that make sense
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4252 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:32 pm to
What troubles me more is that DD misquoted him and cherry picked what he was saying to make it seem like he was saying the opposite of what he was talking about.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67459 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

How many of them have our talent?



Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67459 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

When is the last time a power running team beat them?


how many power running teams do they play?

WE beat them in 2010, and 2011. Then a few spread teams, but they also beat about 9 spread teams a year.

the way our oline played there is no scheme in the world that would work
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:35 pm to
Like I posted before.... That's just not true. On passes within 10yards of the LOS, Harris is 41/60 on the season. Our WRs have had 8 drops and Harris has just 7 inaccurate passes on those throws. And there has only been a couple of passes where Harris puts too much heat on it. But the WRs should still catch it.

And let's get away from Harris. Where was the short, quick passing to the middle of the field with Mett? Nobody has ever said he had horrible touch, yet we still rarely would attack the middle of the field with short, quick passes. We have attacked the middle of the field with the seam and post, but havent done it with short, quick passes regardless who the QB is. It's just a part of Cameron's offense. You can go back and look at his offense with Joe Flacco and the Ravens and even further back to Rivers and the Chargers. He doesnt use short, quick passes to the middle of the field and never has.
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 8:42 pm
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:40 pm to
Yes it troubles me and worries me about this week.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
4377 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

miles established over the course of the season to date an offense that runs over 70% of the time (?) and when facing the best DL around - knowing full well that they know we run 70% of the time - persisted running into brick walls.



We had 50:50 split for called pass plays vs run plays for the Bama game. Your point is invalid.

Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:41 pm to
It's not about a scheme overhaul. It's frankly as simple as not being so damn predictable.

Loom at Harbaugh in San Francisco. They ran the hell out of the ball and did it in an infinite number of different sets. You don't have to always just run straight forward at an opponent. Things as simple as counters, pulling blockers, stretch runs are all really easy ways to change things up.
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:41 pm to
quote:

Does it trouble you that Miles does not see a need to change scheme?



It troubles me that most LSU fans dont realize why Les doesnt want to change.

Its because that scheme, as you refer to it, meets the stated goal for the program set by the AD. A stated goal which, by the way, does not include national championships as its measure.

Want to change it? Lsu fans should demand that the AD restate the goal publically so that when the program fails the AD and or the coach can be held accountable.

Unless or until then LSU fans should expect more of the same.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67601 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:43 pm to
We know that they haven't had problems with our offense in years. Defense has kept done games close.

What I don't understand is he allowed the defense to adapt to defend what the majority of teams run...leaving us more vulnerable to bamas offense.
Posted by lsuag88
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2006
3538 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:44 pm to
Agreed. Why change when 9, 10 wins keeps your cool $5 mill flowing AND ticket sales remain high and steady?
Posted by Wirenut
Member since Nov 2015
17 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:47 pm to
The scheme worked 3 of the last 5 times? Sounds good but we still LOST the last 5 games against them!!!!! Something is not working against them
Posted by lsuag88
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2006
3538 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:50 pm to
If we LOST it did NOT work! We can't score 20 points on Bama!
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:52 pm to
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Moreover, what worries me is that while we are blessed to win plenty of games, we don't lose enough to have a major change in offensive philosophy. Kind of damned if we do and damned if we don't.


That could only make sense if the head coach was more worried about keeping his job than about maximizing his teams performance and winning championships.

And that's far fetched, right?
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 8:58 pm
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:53 pm to
quote:

Agreed. Why change when 9, 10 wins keeps your cool $5 mill flowing AND ticket sales remain high and steady?



Exactly
But dont blame Les though. IMO its starts with the AD and his stated goals for the program. Besides i would rather Alleva not be the one to hire the next Coach.

Heck, for that matter fire Alleva and hire Miles as AD with stipulation he cant hire from within or retain any assistants for the next HC.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30642 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:58 pm to
There are some schemes out there that are very cool. Take your pick:


1. Spread
2. Power I
3. A-11 would be new
4. Oh, here's one....it' called Adjusting
5. Kick offs in-bounds are good too
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67601 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:01 pm to
Paying a coach 5 million tells me the goals are implied.
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