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re: Danny Zardon transferring as well
Posted on 7/27/15 at 10:36 pm to lsusportsman2
Posted on 7/27/15 at 10:36 pm to lsusportsman2
quote:Mainieri makes hundreds of thousands of dollars to win... not get offended by 20 year olds.
would you rather Mainieri say yes and have a good chance of looking like a liar if Zardon does not get what he wanted?
quote:He's made promises before.
Mainieri didn't want make any promises to anybody
quote:If it was true, of course. And it certainly might be. Still don't think it was the worst thing for Zardon to do.
Unfortunately that's not what Zardon wanted to hear.
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Posted on 7/27/15 at 10:36 pm to ell_13
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You have no idea what was said beyond PM saying Zardon wanted a guaranteed spot. If PM wants that as his scape goat, fine. But 2 things. First, why say it even if it is true other than to put blame on the player. And second, players make these types of comments often during summer meetings in some form or another. They say they want to play every day. They say the want the chance to be an every starter... to more straight forward. Like, I'm in my 3rd year. I think I should start every day. And coaches usually just coach speak their way out of it. These kids go back home and hear how great they are how few chances they get. So a coach usually just brushes off this talk. The goal is to get as many people into fall and let things play out there. You don't have to tell the player that specifically.
what?
The kids are transferring. You are acting like PM cut them because they wanted to play every day.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 10:37 pm to NotRight37
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like M Johnson and Avery.
hard to compare football and baseball, just saying.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 10:38 pm to lsufball19
quote:Through possibly no fault of his own. He was coming along great last year at the end as a hitter and in big spots... yet saw 2 ABs all post season while some guys had 2 hits all post season.
obviously he seems scared he can't at LSU
Posted on 7/27/15 at 10:40 pm to moneyg
quote:PM rarely "cuts" guys. These are obviously two different situations where both wanted to leave but under different circumstances.
You are acting like PM cut them
Posted on 7/27/15 at 10:43 pm to ell_13
quote:
He's made promises before.
yes, he's made promises to future high draft picks. don't remember him making promises to third year players that haven't definitively earned their spot
quote:
Mainieri makes hundreds of thousands of dollars to win... not get offended by 20 year olds.
because recruiting doesn't matter
This post was edited on 7/27/15 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 7/27/15 at 10:44 pm to ell_13
I have a feeling that these transfers aren't so voluntary.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 10:44 pm to ell_13
quote:
Through possibly no fault of his own. He was coming along great last year at the end as a hitter and in big spots... yet saw 2 ABs all post season while some guys had 2 hits all post season.
i see where this is going. it's al mainieri's fault
Posted on 7/27/15 at 10:45 pm to lsufball19
quote:I'm aware... He said "anybody". Just saying he's done it before.
yes, he's made promises to future high draft picks. don't remember him making promises to third year players that haven't definitively earned their spot
quote:Not sure what you mean here. I'm insinuating that PM shouldn't put his pride above winning. Part of his job is to deal with egos... some are worth it, some are not. I said this already here. PM obviously thought Zardon wasn't.
because recruiting doesn't matter
This post was edited on 7/27/15 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 7/27/15 at 10:48 pm to ell_13
quote:
Not sure what you mean here. I'm insinuating that PM shouldn't put his pride above winning. Part of his job is to deal with egos... some or worth it, some are not. I said this already here. PM obviously thought Zardon wasn't.
and I think Zardon's ego may be a detriment to his future in this case. Maybe you see it differently
Posted on 7/27/15 at 10:48 pm to lsufball19
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And if he's so lacking in confidence he can't find a starting spot on a team that lost almost the entire batting order, that really says a lot of his future as a baseball player.
Could be a lack of confidence his coach believes in him and will give him a fair shot at being an every day player, no matter how many starters left.
As one scout told me when my oldest kid was considering colleges, go where you are wanted, not just a place where you want to play. Maybe Zardon doesn't feel wanted. As others have noted, we don't know how the conversation went down. May Coach Mainieri said some things that left Zardon less than confident about his future playing opportunities on an every day basis.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 10:53 pm to TigerinSoCal
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As one scout told me when my oldest kid was considering colleges, go where you are wanted, not just a place where you want to play.
just out of curiosity, how'd everything work out for your kid, what were his options, and what did he chose?
Posted on 7/27/15 at 10:54 pm to lsufball19
quote:I don't discount it. I've been speculating a shite ton in this thread. I can admit that. And I'll eat my crow if I'm wrong. No problem with that either.
and I think Zardon's ego may be a detriment to his future in this case. Maybe you see it differently
Zardon could have a big ego. I actually don't know many players who don't honestly. There's a quote I can't find right now. It's about how great athletes makes terrible role models because they have to be the most selfish people on earth to be great. Not calling Danny great... just saying that having an ego isn't the vice people make it out to be.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 10:56 pm to TigerinSoCal
quote:
As one scout told me when my oldest kid was considering colleges, go where you are wanted, not just a place where you want to play. Maybe Zardon doesn't feel wanted. As others have noted, we don't know how the conversation went down. May Coach Mainieri said some things that left Zardon less than confident about his future playing opportunities on an every day basis.
So is PM at fault for telling a kid the reality of the situation? Didn't he tell Foster he wasn't guaranteed anything last year? The problem so may kids have these days is they've been brought up to believe they're "special" players by their parents, and in some cases, travel-ball coaches. If they want to go somewhere where they can play everyday, great. But let's not act like they're getting screwed over.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 10:57 pm to MMauler
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I have a feeling transfers weren't voluntary
Everyone is thinking coach, player arrogance,more playing time, better chance to be drafted etc....
How about girlfriends/ family in home town and closer to same?
Think about when you were in college.Hell, I knew college kids who drove home to Nola every freakin' week cause of poontang.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 10:59 pm to Roarforthetigers
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Think about when you were in college.Hell, I knew college kids who drove home to Nola every freakin' week cause of poontang.
If you're on the LSU baseball team and you gotta go home for poon, you're doing it wrong. Even KRob's got a dime.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 11:00 pm to ForeLSU
quote:It depends. If PM wanted him gone, no. If a coach told the "reality of the situation" to every player and recruit, he wouldn't be a coach for very long.
So is PM at fault for telling a kid the reality of the situation?
quote:Are you really comparing those two situations? Foster had zero options.
Didn't he tell Foster he wasn't guaranteed anything last year?
quote:I bet PM tried to make him feel special during his recruitment too.
The problem so may kids have these days is they've been brought up to believe they're "special" players by their parents, and in some cases, travel-ball coaches
Posted on 7/27/15 at 11:03 pm to MMauler
quote:
I have a feeling that these transfers aren't so voluntary.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 11:04 pm to ell_13
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Foster had zero options.
i mean, he could have just as easily transferred to an NAIA school and found a guaranteed starting spot. It's a poor comparison because he was drafted in the 5th round and is a much better pure athlete than Zardon
Posted on 7/27/15 at 11:05 pm to lsufball19
quote:And leave tigerland behind?
he could have just as easily transferred to an NAIA school
quote:What did I tell you about rounds!
he was drafted in the 5th round
quote:no doubt. He was best athlete on the team the last 3 years.
a much better pure athlete than Zardon
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