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re: CFN: LSU vs Alabama Roundtable

Posted on 7/27/12 at 7:33 am to
Posted by Enfuego
Uptown
Member since Mar 2009
9883 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 7:33 am to
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What I think about when I see/read/hear shite like this- how much fun that day of tailgating is going to be, how drunk I'm going to be, how loud Death Valley is going to be, how sweet it is going to be to wipe the shite eating grin off of that entire fan base that has been there since January, and how great the victory sex with whatever I bring home that night is going to be.


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Posted by kmc821
baton rouge
Member since Dec 2009
16 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 7:35 am to
im not surprised at all by this everyyear bama is the better team according to analyst. but correct me if im wrong didnt we win 7 out of the last 10 against them?
Posted by GarmischTiger
Humboldt County
Member since Mar 2007
6611 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 7:35 am to
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ApexTiger
Nice work.

I'm fired up.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30450 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 7:37 am to
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It should be noted in 2009, We had the #1 class in the nation over Alabama.



Well let me buy my BCS tickets now.


Since when did the #1 recruting class for 1 year determine who's going to beat who?


You were doing fine with blasting this Roundtable of Experts until you pulled this gem out of nowhere.


Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50383 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 7:38 am to
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but correct me if im wrong didnt we win 7 out of the last 10 against them?


Irrelevant.

How does stating this fact garner ratings?
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 7:39 am to
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Enlighten me.

Sure. UA had the better team in 2011 due primarily to better QB play. Yet LSU was able to secure the defacto CCG, in Tuscaloosa. TideNation doesn't see the problem with this, as does much of TigerNation. With the playoff, winning the conference will still be the normal way of selection. This, at times, may not be the case for the 4th team, but that's leaving a lot to chance.

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you don't think teams like Bama will be granted more Mulligans

Saban is a great coach...but being lucky is not one of his virtues. I have a feeling his Shamrock allocation has been used up. By contrast CLM has them growing out of his butt.

Success covers all sins man. Some may take longer than others but eventually, this happens.


Most importantly, Saban and Miles has LSU at a position where the club makes its own mark. Forget UA, UF, or anybody else. They are simply clubs in the way. This is their regard for us, as it ought to be.
This post was edited on 7/27/12 at 7:41 am
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50383 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 7:51 am to
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Sure. UA had the better team in 2011 due primarily to better QB play.


Agreed. Yet LSU still beat them in their back yard and had to play them again. I don't understand the point you are trying to make as a counter to my original statement that LSU's new standard is beating Bama twice in a season.

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Yet LSU was able to secure the defacto CCG, in Tuscaloosa.


Ok.

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TideNation doesn't see the problem with this, as does much of TigerNation.


I would expect TideNation to love this. Why shouln't they? They now know all they have to do is finish third in the SEC, lose their most important game AT HOME and they will be granted a trip to the NCG. What fanbase/team/program wouldn't love this? I honestly can't think of any.

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With the playoff, winning the conference will still be the normal way of selection. This, at times, may not be the case for the 4th team, but that's leaving a lot to chance.


Oh just wait and see my friend. I don't want to come off like a smartass bc you seem like a nice guy, but you haven't been paying attention to who runs CFB now.

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Most importantly, Saban and Miles has LSU at a position where the club makes its own mark. Forget UA, UF, or anybody else. They are simply clubs in the way. This is their regard for us, as it ought to be.


I agree with you. Please don't mistake my acknowledgemnt of LSU's place in the eyes of the media as anything but that. I wouldn't trade LSU's success the past decade with anyone, Bama included.

All I'm trying to do is get Rantards to think like a media moron. Then they won't feel inferior and start threads like this. Not to mention this thread alone probably got that stupid article hundreds of "clicks", which is what the author's want.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 8:06 am to
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but you haven't been paying attention to who runs CFB now.

I hear you but my best guess on the selection committee is one that represents all interests. The majority, from what I can tell, puts an added weight to the conference champion. Now regarding how they are influenced by the media's current 'let's suck ______ pecker'...fair enough. But the media is as fickle as they come. 1/8 CLM was 'accolade, accolade'...1/10 CLM might be a top 20 coach, maybe. They are idiots, as you say.

My basic optimism is this. Of all the coaches fretful about playing the current gurus (Saban, Meyer, Petrino, Spurrier, etc), CLM isn't one of them. It's forgotten that he had some very good O's till Perrilloux hosed up and we got in a jam. I'm pretty confident Mett and Rivers along with Krag and Stud is going to solve all that.
This post was edited on 7/27/12 at 8:08 am
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50383 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 8:13 am to
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I hear you but my best guess on the selection committee is one that represents all interests.


That is what they will want fans to believe, yes.

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The majority, from what I can tell, puts an added weight to the conference champion.


It will depend on "who" the Conference Champion is as well. For example, the Big 12 is now fully aware, as well as the rest of the CFB world, that if OU or UT doesn't win the Big 12, their conference champion will be sweating it out. Can't have teams like Okie Lite possibly screwing things up.

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Now regarding how they are influenced by the media's current 'let's suck ______ pecker'...fair enough. But the media is as fickle as they come.


Not really. There are a handfull of teams that you can target today that will get the benefit of the doubt no matter what. It is not hard to figure out who they are.

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My basic optimism is this. Of all the coaches fretful about playing the current gurus (Saban, Meyer, Petrino, Spurrier, etc), CLM isn't one of them. It's forgotten that he had some very good O's till Perrilloux hosed up and we got in a jam. I'm pretty confident Mett and Rivers along with Krag and Stud is going to solve all that.


I am as well. I believe LSU can win it all this year. I really do. In threads like this, I put myself in the place of the media talking heads.
Posted by CaroTiger
South Carolina
Member since May 2011
1199 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 8:14 am to
To Apex Tiger
Very well said!
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 9:04 am to
I'm truly outraged that a writer thinks that LSU has not been as successful as a team that has won two MNC's in the last four years.

That was some insightful analysis.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59128 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 9:10 am to
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They were clearly the better team in 2011.


no, they weren't. They were the better team on 1/9, but not for all of 2011.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7179 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 9:42 am to
I like CFN and I sort of see the points made in the article but it makes a LOT more sense to me to look first to the personnel each team loses and then look to the specific personnel each team has to replace those individuals. When you undertake this seemingly more straightforward analysis, LSU looks to many to be a shade stronger going into the season. Also, it seems like a reach to rely on recruiting rankings and Bama being "better most years" while ignoring how evenly the teams have played each other or the fact that LSU has won two of the last three.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 9:50 am to
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- For four straight years, Alabama has been the better team (and in 2008/2009, it really wasn't close);


Really? In 2010, FOURTH PLACE IN THE WEST Alabama was better than 2nd place LSU who BEAT ALABAMA?

Aw shite. I just clicked on the link. You are linking fricking CFN/Scout. Might as well be Bleacher Report. I won't waste my time responding further to this moron.
Posted by TigerStripes30
Alexandria, LA
Member since Dec 2011
6369 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 9:56 am to
This will put everything to rest come Nov 3...if we annihilate bama they wont have anything to talk about but what ifs....thing about it is whoever said this does not like facts
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 9:59 am to
this guy needs to be buried alive
Posted by TigerStripes30
Alexandria, LA
Member since Dec 2011
6369 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 10:20 am to
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ApexTiger


def wouldnt mind drinkin a beer with this guy
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 11:21 am to
Just another random Sabanista hoping to get on with ESPN in some sort or fashion.

Not very well thought out. If he thinks Alabama is better, fine. But all that piece did was knock LSU with no reason one way or another.

Grade-A loser.
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9358 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 11:42 am to
Doesn't really provide any facts...just rambles with opinions and therefore sounds like a fan blowing smoke out his arse. The one valid topic to look at was the NCG and that was stubborn Miles pulling a tin cup. Seriously, QB was the factor in that game. It's not like Bama crossed the 50 much. You would think that the way people talk about that game the LSU defense was awful.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83945 posts
Posted on 7/27/12 at 12:06 pm to
Ran a clinic on how to beat LSU? Alabama scored a TD in the fourth quarter. Ridiculous.
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