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CFN: LSU vs Alabama Roundtable

Posted on 7/26/12 at 7:33 pm
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 7:33 pm
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So the first question has to be, which of these two is better? And in my mind, the answer has to be Alabama. Why does it seem obvious to me? For a number of reasons:


- For four straight years, Alabama has been the better team (and in 2008/2009, it really wasn't close);
- For five straight years (per scout.com), Alabama has out-recruited LSU, and the 2012 class had an especially wide gap (and scout was actually higher on LSU's class than most other sources);
- LSU enjoyed a historic outlier of a season for turnover margin in 2011, which is almost certainly not sustainable;
- Alabama annihilated LSU in the nation title game, which to me points to Bama being better in 2012 (because they were far better in that game, and because they gave a clinic on how to beat LSU), not to LSU being better in 2012 (because somehow this gives them the "motivation advantage")


Get ready to be fired up

Well that about sums it up guys..........



It should be noted in 2009, We had the #1 class in the nation over Alabama.

It should be noted that we beat Alabama in 2010 & 2011, and got robbed of an INT in 2009, I think we played them to OT in 2008 but they have been the better team......and it hasn't been close..

It should be noted that every year we go to the national title it seems we have a historic outlier when it comes to turnovers.......see 2007 and 2011.

Seems this dude needs a clinic on FACT CHECKING.
This post was edited on 7/26/12 at 7:40 pm
Posted by Northgate
Member since Jul 2012
2527 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

- Alabama annihilated LSU in the nation title game, which to me points to Bama being better in 2012 (because they were far better in that game, and because they gave a clinic on how to beat LSU), not to LSU being better in 2012 (because somehow this gives them the "motivation advantage")


We will see about this.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31700 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 7:39 pm to
quote:

because they were far better in that game, and because they gave a clinic on how to beat LSU


So i guess this holds firm for this year. Since we have that whole new quarterback that can throw and all. They really ought to rename CFN.com "throatfrickbamaandsaban.com"

I guess that beating we gave them in the 2010 season didn't count? And since when does beating a team on their own home field count as "we weren't good enough. we just lucked out"

My god I am so fricking sick of reading that shite. I'd wager $100, if i could go back, that if Mike Ford doesn't step out of bounds, we are 14-0 after beating OSU and we never have this discussion. God damn it i'm sick of bama.
This post was edited on 7/26/12 at 7:42 pm
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22754 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 7:41 pm to
This is just the beginning of a long season of hearing about this same shite.
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
18638 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 7:44 pm to
quote:

- For four straight years, Alabama has been the better team (and in 2008/2009, it really wasn't close)


didn't we beat them in 2010 and 2011?

oh and if we're going as far back as 2008, let's go a little further, like the five years before that 2003-2007. oh looky there we won five in a row and had 2 National Championships.

and yes, online rankings of recruits are KEY to winning football games.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31700 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 7:45 pm to
The BCSCG was the anomaly in this series. Every game we have played has been tight and could have gone either way. Our shite arse team in 08 took them to OT. We got royally fricked in 09 on the non-int and every journalist with intelligence knows that. We beat their arse here in 10, and beat them in their place in 11 during "THE GAME OF THE CENTURY".

But since it's bama, they get a mulligan for the defacto "GAME OF THE CENTURY" because we only made field goals and that doesn't count. I guess McCarron intended to throw that ball to Mo Claiborne, and Reid was given that ball by their TE? Do any of these guys know how incredibly hard to beat a team twice in a season it is, especially in college football? OMFG I want to bury them by 40 points this year.
Posted by Sampson
Chicago
Member since Mar 2012
24561 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 7:45 pm to
What I think about when I see/read/hear shite like this- how much fun that day of tailgating is going to be, how drunk I'm going to be, how loud Death Valley is going to be, how sweet it is going to be to wipe the shite eating grin off of that entire fan base that has been there since January, and how great the victory sex with whatever I bring home that night is going to be.
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8274 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

- Alabama annihilated LSU in the nation title game, which to me points to Bama being better in 2012 (because they were far better in that game, and because they gave a clinic on how to beat LSU), not to LSU being better in 2012 (because somehow this gives them the "motivation advantage")


So a bunch of key players leave Alabama and suddenly they will be better in 2012? How did that work out for them in 2010? I'd venture neither LSU nor Alabama will be the same teams in 2012 being as there are a lot of new faces in the lineups, even more so for Alabama. Pretty poor analysis from CFN.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

PS In case we're thinking about making bold predictions as part of this exchange, my first bold prediction of the year is that LSU goes down before they play Bama. Most likely they split the Auburn/Florida road games, though South Carolina and Texas A&M are far from gimmes, and Washington at least has something of a shot.


This has got to be the dumbest thing I've heard all offseason.
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

- Alabama annihilated LSU in the nation title game, which to me points to Bama being better in 2012 (because they were far better in that game, and because they gave a clinic on how to beat LSU), not to LSU being better in 2012 (because somehow this gives them the "motivation advantage")


Solid logic there.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31700 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 7:48 pm to
bama loses at least 2 games, maybe 3. loses to LSU, ARK, and maybe someone like state or auburn gets them.
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
18638 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 7:53 pm to
quote:

and in 2008/2009, it really wasn't close


also this really pisses me off

2008: yes that was definitely Miles's worst LSU team to date, but as far as Alabama goes, we brought those frickers into OT with a blocked field goal, the loudest I've ever heard Tiger Stadium

2009: had "the interception" not been shite on by the worst refs in recent memory, who knows how that game would've ended. (Bama probably would've pulled it out, but we were given no chance)

my point is, "and in 2008/2009, it really wasn't close" has to be the most ignorant part of his post, which is saying a lot.

frick that guy for getting me pissed about those games again
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22754 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

my point is, "and in 2008/2009, it really wasn't close" has to be the most ignorant part of his post, which is saying a lot.


You don't think it is more ignorant to say they were better for 4 years yet they lost in 2010 & 2011 to us...........

ETA: we didn't cross the 50 until 4th quarter before a Bammer does.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:23 pm to
they just pissed LSU failed them on the final game.

Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
Back Home now
Member since Sep 2006
61085 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

What I think about when I see/read/hear shite like this- how much fun that day of tailgating is going to be, how drunk I'm going to be, how loud Death Valley is going to be, how sweet it is going to be to wipe the shite eating grin off of that entire fan base that has been there since January, and how great the victory sex with whatever I bring home that night is going to be.

this
Might I add how sweet the next 365 days after nov 3rd will be for me personally living amongst the mouth breathers.

frick em!
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:31 pm to
The asswhipping we got in New Orleans still stings...a lot. I'm not saying shite about Alabama until we beat them again. They were clearly the better team in 2011.
Posted by Toughcrittercrumb1
Houston
Member since Apr 2011
1084 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:32 pm to
Thankfully most media talking heads don't think that way. Unfortunately, people still believe that LSU is more likely to stumble against lesser opponents than Bama. The writer expects LSU to have a loss before we meet Bama. Auburn/Florida and possibly USC/Washington. You really have to wonder if this guy actually watched any LSU games last year. Other then Bama, no other team came closer than 10 points.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22754 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

They were clearly the better team in 2011.


I always hear people say this and it blows my mind.........How were they clearly the better team?

There were afforded the luxury of playing us again because nobody else could go undefeated.

We beat them on their home field because on that night, when it was suppose to count for all the marbles, our defense, and our special teams was better than theirs.

Nobody can dispute this.

The 2nd time around their defense outclassed our offense by Miles(pun intended). There is no other way to state it.

They can't cleary be better when we were 1-1 against them.



This post was edited on 7/26/12 at 8:36 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58604 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:36 pm to
You mean in jan. 2012. We beat them in 2011.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22754 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 8:37 pm to
In fact, like the poster above said they were so clearly better than a Russel Sheppard catch and turn instead of falling on his butt or an inch to the left on the Ford run, and they wouldn't even had the opportunity to play us again.
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