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re: 2011 Alternative Scenario
Posted on 7/31/13 at 1:10 am to Gardevoir
Posted on 7/31/13 at 1:10 am to Gardevoir
We beat you at your own home already.
I know the mulligan game made that irrelevant, but in the history of college football, it wasn't. Once you do that to an opponent in a season, that question is resolved.
You should have never been in the game.
I know the mulligan game made that irrelevant, but in the history of college football, it wasn't. Once you do that to an opponent in a season, that question is resolved.
You should have never been in the game.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 1:41 am to faxis
I'm surprised no one is talking about the Ohio State/Michigan scenario. Remember when they were number 1 and 2 in the polls respectfully and Ohio State had just beat them in the last game of the season. Really if they would have gone with number 1 and 2, Ohio State and Michigan would have played again. Though, people didn't want that because they were both in the same conference and already played each other. No one wanted to see that match up. That's when Florida was selected for the National Championship game and well we all know what happened there.
I just found it strange how everyone was so against that happening and years later they vouched for the Bama/LSU game to happen.
I just found it strange how everyone was so against that happening and years later they vouched for the Bama/LSU game to happen.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 4:29 am to tigergirl26
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I just found it strange how everyone was so against that happening and years later they vouched for the Bama/LSU game to happen.
You might have a good point if Michigan and Ohio State weren't blown out in their respective bowl games. There wasn't a team in the country that would blow Alabama out. Any other bowl would have been meaningless for them because there was only one other team in the country that stood a significant chance against Alabama.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 4:31 am to faxis
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We beat you at your own home already.
I know the mulligan game made that irrelevant, but in the history of college football, it wasn't. Once you do that to an opponent in a season, that question is resolved.
You should have never been in the game.
If we weren't in the game, then that would be the equivalent of handing you the national championship before the game was played — just like Alabama in 2012 (Notre Dame was overrated).
Posted on 7/31/13 at 4:33 am to touchdownjeebus
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or maybe USC
No. Several USC teams were left out of the BCSNCG because USC couldn't take care of business against a conference it owned and a weak schedule.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 9:36 am to Gardevoir
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If we weren't in the game, then that would be the equivalent of handing you the national championship before the game was played — just like Alabama in 2012 (Notre Dame was overrated).
Jeez man you really don't respect Oklahoma State huh???
OSU in 2011 was ten times better than ND in 2012.
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USC teams were left out of the BCSNCG because USC couldn't take care of business
Didn't you give me the face a few pages ago for using the "didn't take care of business" line. Glad to see you've come around to my way of thinking about Bama in 2011.
And USC never played a schedule any weaker than Bama's was in 2011. Seriously.
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Gardevoir
I realize that you are likely just a trolling Bama fan in a weak disguise, but for a guy claiming to just be looking for some good healthy debate, you sure seem to not want to address any of my posts on the previous page.
This post was edited on 7/31/13 at 9:37 am
Posted on 7/31/13 at 10:06 am to Gardevoir
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quote: Nick Saban's is topped by none when it comes to bowl game preparation and execution. Signed UTAH Sugar Bowl 2009 31 17
He's also 1-1 vs Mack Brown and 0-1 vs Kirk Ferentz...
Posted on 7/31/13 at 10:48 am to Gardevoir
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Several USC teams were left out of the BCSNCG because USC couldn't take care of business against a conference it owned and a weak schedule.
Bama has lost a game in November every season this decade. Yet they have two national titles in this decade despite "not taking care of business". Not just losses, but LATE losses. These were crippling to every team in college football history, except this era of Bama teams.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 10:58 am to Baloo
Let's be fair. LSU lost the last game of the regular season in 2007.
They then took care of business in the SECG, and the planets aligned to send them to the title game.
They then took care of business in the SECG, and the planets aligned to send them to the title game.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:22 am to Baloo
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Bama has lost a game in November every season this decade. Yet they have two national titles in this decade despite "not taking care of business". Not just losses, but LATE losses. These were crippling to every team in college football history, except this era of Bama teams.
The other teams didn't win, it's just because Bama just didn't play well those days.
I hope history really looks back at the 2011 BCS season as the worst ever and WOW, WTF happened here?!??!!
Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:22 am to Bmath
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Bama has lost a game in November every season this decade. Yet they have two national titles in this decade despite "not taking care of business". Not just losses, but LATE losses. These were crippling to every team in college football history, except this era of Bama teams.
Baloo
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Let's be fair. LSU lost the last game of the regular season in 2007.
They then took care of business in the SECG, and the planets aligned to send them to the title game.
And then went to ATL and won the SECCG with a backup QB. The same day that the #1 and #2 team lost their actual last game of the year, (one of which was not even an upset as Oklahoma had already beaten Missou once before and was FAVORED to beat them again).
LSU then jumped VTech, who they beat by 41 earlier in the year, Georgia, who was also idle due to not winning their division to represent the East in the SECCG after losing to UT by 21, and fricking KANSAS who beat ONE ranked team all season, #24 Kansas State who didn't even end up going to a bowl game.
Pitt upset West Virginia after Pat White got hurt. That is all that needed to happen once LSU beat UT to win the SEC.
It wasn't even a close vote.
Pitt upsetting WV is no bigger of an upset than Iowa State beating OSU in 2011 for Bama (that's assuming the OSU kicker missed that FG, which I to this day am not convinced he did: LOOKS GOOD TO ME).
The "planets aligned" BS is just uninformed regurgitation of ESPN propaganda.
This post was edited on 7/31/13 at 11:51 am
Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:23 am to Bmath
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Let's be fair. LSU lost the last game of the regular season in 2007. They then took care of business in the SECG, and the planets aligned to send them to the title game.
And once again, won the division and a championship game against a quality opponent the following week...instead of not playing AT ALL!
Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:30 am to Tiger Voodoo
I was just commenting on the late losses comment.
I don't really deserve the attack.
It took you multiple paragraphs to explain the scenario that got LSU back into the title game. I never said it was a fluke, but come on LSU needed some help. If they hadn't already beaten Tech handedly then they may never have recovered.
I don't really deserve the attack.
It took you multiple paragraphs to explain the scenario that got LSU back into the title game. I never said it was a fluke, but come on LSU needed some help. If they hadn't already beaten Tech handedly then they may never have recovered.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:32 am to gjackx
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And once again, won the division and a championship game against a quality opponent the following week...instead of not playing AT ALL!
What does this have to do with Bama last year, I already have multiple posts in this thread arguing that Bama didn't deserve a shot at the title in 2011.
I was just being critical when he was putting them down for losing in November in a title year, when our Tigers have done the same.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:35 am to Bmath
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I don't really deserve the attack.
Defnitely didn't me to attack you dude.
The "regurgitation of ESPN propaganda" line was definitely directed at ESPN. Their whole portrayal of the scenario was just sensationalism at it's worst.
Anyone who knew anything about the BCS ranking knew that we'd jump anyone ahead of us if Missou and WV lost, and like I said, Missou was an UNDERDOG.
Pitt winning a huge rivalry game in The Backyard Brawl was the only help we needed.
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It took you multiple paragraphs to explain the scenario that got LSU back into the title game. I never said it was a fluke, but come on LSU needed some help.
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Pitt upset West Virginia after Pat White got hurt. That is all that needed to happen once LSU beat UT to win the SEC.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 2:19 pm to Gardevoir
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If we weren't in the game, then that would be the equivalent of handing you the national championship before the game was played — just like Alabama in 2012 (Notre Dame was overrated).
1. Having to beat the Big 12 champ is not "handing" LSU the title.
2. FWIW 2011 Okie > 2012 ND. By a lot. Okie had a scary good offense.
3. It'll sound weird saying this, but by logic LSU was the only team who deserved the NC at the end. Another bowl game was not necessary. No one else was undefeated. I know that's not realistic but it's logical.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 2:26 pm to Bmath
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Let's be fair. LSU lost the last game of the regular season in 2007.
Sure. But I'm also not the Bama fan running my mouth off about how other teams spit the bit. My comment was about the hypocrisy of an Alabama fan criticizing another program for not taking care of business when Bama has failed to finish strong and yet been rewarded with two national titles.
Y'know. Goose. Gander. All of that.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 3:52 pm to Baloo
what galls me is if everything with LSU and Alabama in 2011 was the same except they won the regular season game 9-6 in overtime, there was no way on Earth LSU would have been in the BCS title game.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 6:45 pm to I-59 Tiger
I think we all know who deserved to be there.
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